#328: How To Survive L.A. And Then Get The Hell Out w/ Actor & Comedian Kirk Zipfel
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SPEAKERS
Law (53%), Speaker 2 (44%), Speaker 3 (1%)
Law Smith
0:02
sweat equity podcasts and streaming show the number one business comedy podcast. Both it's both. That's how we roll. We got Kurt zipfel, comedian, real estate mogul. Actor, actor, commercial actor to pitch in house plays. We're just trying to get his. We're trying to write his ship on this podcast. We're 2020s best small medium enterprise visit advisory podcast in the United States. We're also 2021 best I'm trying to do this up memory best studio and entertainment podcasts in the eastern United States think the corporate vision magazine Yeah, pretty good. This podcast I guess I don't have it is brought to you by grasshopper. Try grasshopper.com via innovator in their corporate corporate vision magazine, media innovator words 2021 we already won that ship, Navy q4 baby and we want to know what we're doing. The ads show this podcast show sponsored by grasshopper try grasshopper comm forward slash swept kids to 75 bones off an annual plan. What's grasshopper you say? The business phone lines entrepreneurs app for their business line? Get a second line don't have two cell phones. Don't try to add a Google Voice number that you can't use later for business purposes. Did you know that shit he didn't know that she tried grasshopper yet before try grasshopper.com forward slash forward slash sweat like key sweat gets a 75 bones of an annual plan that's try grasshopper.com forward slash sweat like he sweat $75 off an annual plan. Let's get this party started. Ah. Woody
Law Smith
2:01
woody Woody, my sweater hammertoe I fell us How were you? We were good. We go are good.
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Speaker 2
2:26
That's fantastic. I'm gonna change my name from my email that I created for junk like 20 years ago. A normal name will cut that out. It popped up at the beginning.
Law Smith
2:39
I like hammertoe Yeah, I mean, you know it's not a fun condition to have. But it's a fun name. This is a real thing. That's Yeah. Is it bad? Like turf toe? I don't think it's not. Okay. It is it is we got to keep all this in now.
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Speaker 2
2:56
It's a condition. I actually don't have it. I just like the word. But it's apparently when your toes like curled down like this and in you and they kind of just formed like a cloth although there is something called clawfoot claw toe but hammertoes when your toes like kind of curling like that
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Speaker 3
3:15
Kirk is a Board Certified podiatrist. For everybody wondering it's all true stand up comedians, that
Law Smith
3:21
is off time for the audio listeners. just curl up your knuckle at the at the top knuckle and then put them together like your toes would face each other for some reason. As if they were getting in a fight. And then what and then that's what he's doing. Oh, I'm using my words. What's up law? I haven't seen like 10 years. I know man. Oh Your hair looks immaculate looks about the exact same and I'm kind of jealous because I'm on that key. You get on it. I've been on it. Yeah, I told you I've been on keeps Do you know what the keep stuff? It says you can't have more than two alcoholic beverages well on that or you're gonna have real bad liver issues. Which one are you doing? keeps but I know but which one though? All of it baby. You don't know you're talking about wow professional that one of
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Speaker 2
4:15
life's little ironies there. Like you can either have hair or you can drink but if you get hair you can't drink. I'm sorry. You can't you can't use can't have both.
Law Smith
4:22
We really need to look into this because we're both on keeps and drinking and not a sponsor of ours. Well, you want a month without drinking? Yeah, that's pretty. Yeah. For me. That
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Speaker 2
4:33
was a big deal. Kurt with Eric, that's impressive. I haven't been I haven't had a drink in in a month about well, in about two three and a half weeks.
Law Smith
4:45
I thought I thought I was gonna
4:47
take it seriously for saying coming up on one year out of my selling 11 months or so be one year. I stopped drinking.
Law Smith
4:53
Oh wait, you stopped the year now? Because he said a month? No, I'm coming up on a year in 11 months. That's incredible. Oh, no. Joke out. Yeah. Yeah, I'm making it my own.
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Speaker 2
5:07
I mean, it's amazing when you tell people that you stopped drinking for any amount of time. I mean, it can be 48 hours. You're like, yeah, and I'm not drinking now, Billy. Hey, oh, what's going on? People just like automatically get like, they're like
5:21
I brought you
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Speaker 2
5:24
batches hard. You know, like, I want I want to I want to so bad and I'm good. I swear. You just like open this Pandora's box. Yeah, I've been waiting for a sign. And this is it. I knew this when I started doing it.
Law Smith
5:39
Dude in LA. That's every fifth conversation someone Yeah, somebody's got a chain bringing something to the table. Is that how it was for you? Like, I when I felt like especially stand up like we maybe our era miss the party era of sorts. Because every like every third comic definitely was like recovering from something.
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Speaker 2
6:01
I don't disagree. I think comedy is filled with just broken toys. Left and Right. Literally coast to coast. And people who are, you know, fucked up in one way or another? There's no doubt about it. Did we miss like the heyday of just drugs and partying? Yes. Yeah. We should. It's not the 80s not even the 90s. Like, you know, there are no more. I can't remember. Who's the dude Sam Kinison, not K. But he was like the granddaddy of Richard Pryor. Maybe. But who was who died who died like in 2000. Mitch Hedberg. Funny, yeah. Hedberg.
Law Smith
6:38
He died. He died no five, because I saw two weeks before he died. Yeah. Well, yeah, he performed it. Where were you when he died? I was on spring break. And I heard the word of at whereabouts unknown. Well know him in jim breuer co headline at Auburn University. And I'm so psyched at like me. My buddies were psyched to see Hedberg. Brewer went up first. annihilated like, I don't know if I've ever seen anybody annihilate that hard. And I always loved her like, brewers great, but we're like, we're there for Hedberg. And man, it was sad. It was like he was what he was facing the curtain. Most of the time he was he was literally asking the stage hands off. off stage. Do you have anything? Like you have any, I guess opiates, I forget what you're saying. But he was asking for a hookup. And it was like, get his drugs lined up. I was like, I was like, dude, the people you're talking to who set up the school production stuff. That ain't the crowd you're looking for. You needed us and red and 200 section that we're loving it.
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Speaker 2
7:46
I mean, I think I think people in common in general are pretty, you know, inclined to that that kind of behavior. Certainly, if it's gonna be a little bit of drugs, it's gonna be a lot of drugs, and it's gonna be a little bit of booze. It's gonna be a ton of booze. I had to ask myself a few different times the wrong way when we were hanging out like in you know, doing O'Brien's like this shitty Irish bar in Santa Monica. By the way, Sunday night practice room
Law Smith
8:10
to get in O'Brien's so your level ahead of me so to get no Brian's For me it was a big deal. Right? Like so are you looking at it like shady I was like oh shit yeah, this is awesome contains doing sets in here. I think Joel McHale at some point was doing a bunch of sets in there you
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Speaker 2
8:24
can do we can get we can get good comics to come back and do sets like in the in the room next to the toilet that was always broken up the entire. Like, there were people walking back and forth because it was like the exit over here and a curtain back there. People just wander and be like, What the hell's going on? Right? smells like shit.
Law Smith
8:43
right on the border of Santa Monica and Venice. Were those two kind of cities meet? Technically, I think. And then if there's a Lakers game, you're fucked. Like everybody turns into a Lakers fan. So now I don't get read
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Speaker 2
8:56
to the TV would be on blaring. You know, you could barely hear anything in the background. We spent a lot of time back there. But I had asked myself at one point like, Am I going out to work on stand up? Like seriously? Or am I just going to drink with my own successful comedian friends? But I honestly could not answer that question.
Law Smith
9:12
Well, you you you seem like you had a I think we gravitated towards each other because you had I wanted to say you had a normal childhood but I don't know anything about your upbringing. Yes, it was quite normal. Was it? Yeah, it was. Did you feel guilty about it like I did, because I was always like, man, my parents are still together. Like, I didn't get I didn't get dental. I didn't have any like, I didn't have any trauma. And there's a there's a quote I heard that is like, well, if you're a comic that didn't have it growing up, you're gonna create it later, which I definitely Yeah, but what I would say you
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Speaker 2
9:48
ever felt guilty about it. Like I came to it from it from an acting perspective. I never I was never like driven to comedy. I feel like by some of the demons that drive a lot of people to stand up comedy. I was like, I just want to work more, I want to get more jobs. And I know that everybody that I see who's on TV, like started in stand up or did stand up. And so I'm going to go do that. And then I started liking it. But I will say that it had almost literally no measurable effect on my career as an actor at all. I didn't stand up for like, 1015 years, and they were like, Uh huh.
Law Smith
10:20
So you're not doing anymore? what's what's gone not actually stopped.
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Speaker 2
10:24
I stopped him stand up a while ago. Because you know, it just Well, I mean, you know,
Law Smith
10:29
you're good that you can go a long time. That's, I know, but I mean, you're good at doing it a long time. Well, it's weird. You become fast friends, a lot of people but you get to know people through their act a lot after watching a lot of people but it's like, I was I was showing Eric before you got on. I was like, Oh, this is the room. We used to do it in that room five that I found the video View from 2013. I was like, this is kind of where I cut my teeth. This is where and I was. There's I don't know. You get to understand a lot of people really quickly, but I had to be like, Oh, that's nice. curtain. Well, I used to be like, I don't want to go after Kurt man. He's gonna crush. I don't want to go after that. did say that. Yeah.
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Speaker 3
11:12
He mentioned you might have done a guitar guitar comedy back in the day two. I did. I did. I was that guy.
Law Smith
11:18
No, you call it musical comedy. You Nick. I put I put y'all aside you Nick there and we're good. You could do it without the guitar. That's how you can tell. I'm not knocking. Right?
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Speaker 2
11:29
Yeah. If there's any I enjoyed it. I mean, I you know, I cringe anytime, any comedian. Well, it's not a guitar. I'm like, this is gonna be awful. Because most comedians and and this is just me as a snobby musician that most comedians are terrible musicians. Sure. And so for me that that had to be the first. That had to be the benchmark. Like, if you're good, then I'll listen. But if you can't play that thing, and you expect me to forgive you, what everything because you're gonna write a funny, strong, strong song, then I don't give a shit because I want you to be good first and foremost, but like I said, total comedy snob who's like, Yeah, right. Cuz I thought I was like jack black or something, you know, I wanted to be, I wanted to be like this amazing. Stand up hug. But what I didn't realize about musical comedy is I do, I really believe that it's essential to have a partner, it's essential to have someone else to work off of and to play with and to harmonize with, like Tenacious D like, Garfunkel notes, you know, like, there's a lot of musical comedy deals, but you just get you get a lot more, you get a lot more ROI. When you get a two man to man, comedy music
Law Smith
12:42
acts, except for the part where you have to show up together, except when you're a lone wolf doing stand up. That's the beauty of doing stand up is like, I'll be like, I'll tell Eric and be like, hey, come to come up to this. The show doing. If you don't go there's no big deal. Like, it's one of those to it, but it's one of those things like, you know, you get used to that lifestyle, just like well, no one's really gonna give a fuck about it. Except for you anyway. the only the only camaraderie I felt was like, you know, seeing you or any, any number of people you're like, I gotta step up my game that was the only kind of like, in a weird, informal teamwork kind of way, but stand ups it feels. I just I logistically, it makes me nervous trying to think about how to get another person somewhere where you need to be to the all with the same, like, Hey, this is gonna suck for years. kind of attitude. Yep. Yeah, it's,
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Speaker 2
13:39
it's true. I mean, you're you are very much a lone wolf. You are, even though you're dealing with other people. It's like, it's like golf. I mean, you're, you know, it's, it's up to you to hit the balls, it's up to you to get out there and play. It's up to you to like, you know, no one's gonna make you better at stand up. Usually you get like, it's like, kind of false like typical pattern where you, you start you have like, if you have some friends or like if you're like a normal person who's sort of funny and has friends, your friends booing you along for the first you know, little while like they'll show up to shows the packet place in some cases, and they're like, you get this false sense of like, momentum. You get to like a little, a little bit of like tailwind right out of the gate. But then eventually your friends drop away because they're not going to come see you do the same shit anymore. And you have to start working on your material. Yeah, and it takes it takes us a really long time to just get out there and and kind of bomb get the bomb and you have to have stuff that doesn't work and there's a bombing bombing. And you have to I only did it here in LA and I I will say that I think that stand up in LA is like probably the worst city in America to do stand up. I can
Law Smith
14:49
imagine. I was so green going out there. I didn't know wasn't a great place to start. I was just like, I was 21 when I came out there. So I was like, I don't know any different.
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Speaker 2
14:58
You know, we were all going And we all didn't know any. I think la be a good time to move to.
Law Smith
15:04
Well, I just go I couldn't handle New York weather wise, I was just like I Florida boy. So it's just one of those things where I was like, la seems that seems similar to Florida and a lot of ways. And it's like, it's crazy, and it's hot. And there's enough stages to get up. And I know more people I knew. Back in the day, I knew more people in LA than I did in New York, which is weird because most people start googa go back and forth between New York and Tampa. Yeah, super cool. Yeah, look, look, we're gonna go moral isn't the New York friends? I did. I had five euro Tampa and as one No. But why are you still in LA? That's how this email started. And then I was like, why don't you just come on the show. And let's just talk about it. Like talk about let's, I wanted to do two things. I want to we want to prop you up because what you showed us for your house place show is brilliant. Linda, it should be on adults. Thank you. And but it really started with your la elitism trashing Florida. And you know what, when? When the United States needed us the most to be the petri dish for COVID guess we find a coal mine. Yeah, guess who fucking stepped up?
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Speaker 2
16:20
Yep. You really did. And let me say somebody from the most important state in the union that we really appreciate you guys you know, gets stepping forward. You know, taking off the masks refusing everything, just hitting the beach and the bars and restaurants you know, by the way, I'm gonna be
Law Smith
16:40
easy Gavin Newsom the beach The beach is funny. They take a picture of the beach at an angle where it looks like everybody's ever been to the beach. No One No one's no one's perfect. I've been to the beach has ever been packed at the beach. Everyone been to the beach? I don't think so. Have you ever ever we've been to the we've been to the beach, bro. Okay, what are you saying? Then there's a picture when? March 2020 where they're like Florida's at a fucking hand. It was fucking crazy. If you take a picture at an angle, it can look like everybody's sitting next to each other like sardines. But if you really look at it from a bird's eye view, everybody's about 10 feet apart, which is at least an impact beach pretty much is probably the safest, the safest place to be. And it was open air. Yeah, but in vitamin D.
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Speaker 2
17:26
What do we place to be when you're when you're 12 deep like in Daytona and there's like some girl like crunk and on the you know, on the sand wasn't
Law Smith
17:34
happening that was happening.
17:36
That picture died, bro. It was that picture that I saw was at the beach.
Law Smith
17:42
If you if you put that in Google image where you can reverse search images. That that was a photo from like seven years before that wasn't even that time. I really call this fake news. But yeah, bro. Big Daddy done and she's going back to 24 Yeah. I wish I wish I had a shorter animosity. desantis fucking is awesome. Duh. I mean, everybody knows that. He's fucking killing it.
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Speaker 2
18:13
Yeah, we were making laws making laws to prohibit people from preventing, to prohibit you from forcing people to wear masks. You know you're doing something by the way.
Law Smith
18:23
Friend of the program. Josh Sheridan who came on this podcast not two months ago, sued the Santas and one for making kids. You know,
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Speaker 3
18:31
your Governor's doing good when other state people live in other states and know who your governor is.
Law Smith
18:36
Oh, yeah, cuz he's getting to Trump levels. He's starting to progress. Yeah. He's like, you know what, fuck mass. He's like at a press conference. He like slaps it off an old Cuban lady. Fuck that shit. You don't need that he's starting to get Trump Trump area and trajectory or
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Speaker 2
18:54
Yeah, we need more i mean you know it's it's been really sad to not have a central polarizing clown to just up you know, to literally dominate wall the wall media coverage for four years straight. I mean, I miss it. I miss the anxiety of, of like the feeling of hatred that just literally took on like 110% and everyone around me was like out of their minds for four years. feuds within my own family screaming matches at my dad. I love it. I'm just bringing it back clear. We're working on it. Awesome. We are working on like,
Law Smith
19:27
I'm all about action. What did he actually do? I no one can really tell me they're just like he's a bad leader. And he talks shit on Twitter. I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Like I'm not for Trump. I voted for Kanye. So let's stop right there. But just in case anybody thinks I actually I just like playing the other side of that coin. I like it became a thing with my friends that I became friends with in LA they couldn't even laugh about it. I was like, I talked to him on the phone. I'll be like, very sarcastically be like I'm a Trump's pretty fun wrong way
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Speaker 2
19:58
to handle you. We we take ourselves pretty seriously out here and you know what? That's not okay. That's not okay. Why? Okay. All right. Why are you still important than that law?
Law Smith
20:08
Why are you still in California, I just had to text a friend that's in I know, it's far away from LA, but the fires in Tahoe, going like crazy. And I was just like, man, they're shutting down taho what I like, to me, it's a dumpster fire. That's a and most of those are manmade, I guess most of the fires that did around y'all.
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Speaker 2
20:28
mean fires are, as we know, have been proven by science, often influenced by a greater trend in the world. That is the warming of our environment. The rigid drying out of our troposphere because of manmade carbon dumps into the atmosphere. I
Law Smith
20:52
didn't know you're gonna go Bill Nye on us and bring up we believe I have to Trump a sphere.
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Speaker 2
20:56
I liked I think I just used the tip of sphere. Ah, why am I still in California? Yeah, it is a good question.
Law Smith
21:03
You got three kids trapped in your house? around you, surrounding
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Speaker 2
21:09
you. No, no, I will say this in law. You probably remember from living in LA that LA is. La is like, it's very much a bubble in a lot of ways. Like it's a lot of people live in their own world and you live in a bubble. But when you live here, you're kind of, you're sort of insulated from all natural disasters, except earthquake. earthquake is this constant, like umbrella fear umbrella that could happen at any second. And that's true, but it really doesn't happen all that often. Right?
Law Smith
21:35
It's just cool to have anxiety about it all the time.
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Speaker 2
21:38
Right. But what we what we don't get is like, you know, I mean, at least on the west side of LA, we don't get fires. There's no there there aren't there isn't any open areas of vegetation around here and it's pretty flat ground and it's all paid so we don't get fires. We don't get hurricanes. We get the tail end of like storms that kind of roll up from Mexico, but we don't have the heart. We don't have the Gulf we don't have the warm water that's going to fuel a hurricane to just slam into California. And you know, and recapping, we don't have tornadoes, we don't have winter. We don't have really even so high wind, occasional floods and the overarching fear of about earthquake is kind of all you get out here.
Law Smith
22:19
Well, because you Okay, natural disasters aside because it's basically desert till you get to the four or five and then it's been it's more beach
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Speaker 3
22:26
kind of weather. 405 is a road in LA for those of you who maybe aren't douchebag
Law Smith
22:32
Yeah, exactly. It's split. It goes right down the middle of like Beverly Hills. Or Westwood, I should say. If you've watched the Californians, that that SNL sketch it really is a lot like that. But four or five whenever they show traffic in LA Oh my god, this is a problem. It's always a picture the four or five totally is it's a popular place to sit in traffic, but I'm saying it what people don't don't think about what people don't get about LA is it's a fucking desert. And then it's a beach. And that's it. It's true. Yeah. And so you very well to catch fire. But that aside, you just jump in the ocean. What about you so you love what like what's there yet? You just jump in the ocean and you catch my Oh, by the way, you jump into Venice, Venice Beach ocean. You could get some wet some cool diarrhea. Cool side effects. No e coli. Cool. inner ear infection. This was my old kitchen with la versus eating amoebas all my friends thought I was crazy. I go look Internet's gonna close that gap. I don't need to be there. Clearly I'm super successful doing stand up but but this is gonna work but no, but what I was saying was like, I don't need to be in LA to pay twice as much to get half as much and and you're right it is a bubble. Like you watch Kirby or like, how can Larry David run into the same people? you actually are in like, Marina Del Rey never thought that I was like it's a TV so well, for Marina Del Rey, is it real up to about West Hollywood. It creates there is that same group of people you see all the time and then Compton doesn't go into that area. Like you know, a lot of other areas don't get into that bubble as much.
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Speaker 2
24:17
They come here to steal our shit. But then they go home back to their apartments.
Law Smith
24:23
I'm just making a case you should move to Florida. Your Florida guy Dude, look at you man. You can make it I tanked a swap that out for a tank top man.
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Speaker 2
24:32
What about me says Florida you Although I will say my parents are citizens of their citizens. They're residents of the state of Florida. They live in Naples.
Law Smith
24:40
Okay, so we're taking care of the unwanted family members that you have. Why aren't Why aren't Floridian? Well, why aren't Floridians respected a lot more we're taking care of everybody's family? not personally, I mean, not me other people.
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Speaker 2
24:57
A couple weeks but not me. Just there's some you know some hate Nurses they're taking care of sure exactly.
Law Smith
25:02
They're lovely. speak a little Korean.
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Speaker 2
25:05
alright though i mean i don't have fun when I'm down there although I do I do enjoy playing golf on a nice manicured golf course that
Law Smith
25:12
we find we crush it in that in that category has got some really nice golf courses well I think like
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Speaker 2
25:21
yeah we can't when I'm in Florida I feel like it's it's like when you're when you're in Naples you know there's the coast road whatever 41 or the whatever the main in the Gulf low not allowed to
Law Smith
25:33
talk about roads because it confuses air. This is a Yeah,
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Speaker 2
25:37
on one side of the road, Rand McNally. On the beach side of the road. It's like unimaginable wealth that like wealth just for miles, everything from blah, blah, blah to Marco Island, whatever, it's a tons of money. And then literally on that road, it's just like unimaginable poverty. Yeah, just wealth and poverty. And that's it. I never got the sense of anything in the middle now. Maybe that's just not the way Naples is. But I always I always got that impression. That's, that's how I go the other side of that road. That's what for people. That's how I felt about Naples is Yeah,
Law Smith
26:08
well, Naples is the number one richest, like zip code in the country or something like that. But that's how we felt about West Hollywood versus Hollywood. Because you're like, whoo, hollywood This is fancy. West Hollywood is fancy because all the gays live there. And it's there's a rainbow on the fucking police cars over there. Hollywood is fucking dogshit it is a hot pile dogshit it is. It's one of the worst places in the country.
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Speaker 2
26:34
I had no idea what Hollywood look like and I've got this apartment that was like at Fairfax and sunset which is in Hollywood but it's close to West Hollywood pretty close. They hung out a while and I was like oh my god this places disgusting. Believe that I moved here and then I was like that used to say that. I live I live like I was like I live it's like West Hollywood a chase because I was like a shame but to be like, Oh yeah, I live where we're Western and Santa Monica Boulevard come together.
Law Smith
27:03
This is that fake restaurant? That the fake? What are those Wilsher that fake restaurant? There's a restaurant that's open only for using it for movie movies and TV and stuff.
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Speaker 2
27:12
Oh yeah, you're right. That's it Fairfax and Wilshire Yeah. This is one of the actually it was in the big basket where they meet and he's like,
27:21
finishing my coffee. Yeah, the Was it the Supreme Court is roundly rejected prior restraint that was in that in that restaurant?
Law Smith
27:32
anybody needs a real there it is. Boom. I send it out.
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Speaker 2
27:38
What? Okay, if you ask me why I'm still here. I'm still here. Because over there, because, you know, you get to have it like I've been I've worked for a long time. I was in a ton of commercials. I did some TV stuff.
Law Smith
27:48
By the way, shit ton of commercials when you can make money doing commercials, right?
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Speaker 2
27:52
Yes, you could make money and I did make money. And it was great. I had like a spokesman game for a little bit. And I was like, you know, I was working. But nobody tells you when you when your work is begins to slow down because you just got older, you know, or that just happened. Like they're like, no one's like, hey, by the way, things are gonna taper off. And you might want to think about a new career. Like you just keep rolling into your 30s, late 30s, early 40s, mid 40s, late 40s and you're like, Wait a second. What happened? I like what happened to the work? And it's terrible. And my wife is like, literally like I get home and she's like, what are we doing here? why don't why haven't we moved away? You haven't worked in months you're a loser. Let's leave and I'm like the cool bit it's just like let's just chill but I've had this now I have the reason I'm still here and I honestly and truly like this close to ready to pull the plug on this place Let's do it right still here because of because of the show because I believe in my show and I want to see it through to its natural conclusion. I don't think I don't think I know what's gonna happen I know it's gonna work people don't just get like successful like in when they're 46 like in
Law Smith
29:01
fact that defeat is talked Yeah, that's probably why you switch it around dude. I can still do it yeah. Oh my God, look it maybe all right here in your own mind. And as soon as you flick the switch were two huge comedy snobs and we were watching them like god damn there's no reason that should not be on TV. I heard that bitch because she she's the one No, no, no, no don't know don't go with it. No, it's not what you just said. It is her I told her and is she that's the Florida life in you. That's that's what you're thinking oh, I'm gonna marry a Hooters hostess. Cuz she read her name on the table with a heart.
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Speaker 2
29:39
My my my goal now is to see this show through to its natural conclusion. To shoot our pilot across place. We want it Yes. House place. It's in. Whether whether the conclusion is network's looking at as being like, no, he gets a job for the next five years. Great.
Law Smith
29:56
You could be in Atlanta and you could probably be working at Atlanta. So do I but I'm on options Austin let's let's meet the middle Austin why not Austin? Why why oh no no state income tax you can get a lot more for your for your mortgage or rent there's a booming comedy scene there moving past the show being successful you can film you talking about you can film wish planning his future that's not gonna happen because the show
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Speaker 2
30:23
but I know the show can be anywhere I could buy a house in Syracuse, Indiana, that we could that we could renovate that we can make a whole season out of and that is part of our plan but I have to make the pilot and sell the pilot yeah and I'd rather do that here while I already live here then have to move somewhere else to try to gather all the pieces and gather crew and get talent in like talent and everybody's here
Law Smith
30:47
so the show you don't need that doesn't seem like a high end production like no offense but you could do it without a lot of production.
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Speaker 2
30:54
No we can we need talent we need tell you're the talent I know what if you do it in Tampa will help but the way the way that the show is written it's an ensemble it looks like like this old house that's that's the show we made that's a two man show.
Law Smith
31:10
You look like we got it.
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Speaker 2
31:12
I'm already here we're already in like we're very much in motion and I just want to see it through to its
Law Smith
31:19
I'm just trying to break you have your defeatist chains right that's that's all I'm trying to do as a friend that's all I appreciate that is you could shoot that literally anyway. You could probably be cheaper to go to Indiana fly out your co hosts do it they're fine. Fine, fine kids there to shoot it for you. And then package that come back to LA and then you can go do night at Bloomington what is the hairy bear? What's a place called you're an Indiana guy right bears Yeah, it's got bears. Yeah, man I got real drunk on some of that shit. Or something you went to you can sync the biz I know all about it, bro. Thank you biz market. Yeah, next. Yeah, I know all these are all Bloomington Indiana spots. I believe you would have had it. Have you knew that? Did you think I know it? brah I've been on the road. I've been Road Dogg motherfucker. I did I did Bloomington I think three times with Nick off. It's a great town. Whatever. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Now he's open for where the cable guys are you forget him now. He's just out. Listen.
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Speaker 2
32:27
I will. I will say that I am. Really the reason we haven't spoken in 10 years is because because I am because it's bad. I'm very bad about keeping keeping track of people. And I will say that since like, since since I stopped doing stand up and sitting through COVID and all that. Like it's not like I'm I'm just I literally see none of the old people that I used to hang on. Right? I just, you know, I'm doing my thing.
Law Smith
32:49
Hey, I don't want to bring it up again. But you know, it's free. This place this state's pretty free right now. You can even go out I can go out and mingle. I went to went to 100 person bar show the other night neriah mask. Was that cool? I don't know.
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Speaker 2
33:04
So are you doing it? I mean, are you like doing stand up actively? Eric? Are you doing? No, not right now. You did but you did. Stand up I've done yeah, I actually dude, it was Yeah, last time was a year ago. He really realized that Oh, wow.
Law Smith
33:18
Yeah. When we both bombed Yeah. That's funny. Always Yeah, bombing is great. And we got about wow got a bomb you have to learn from bombing he's got he's got some stuff that might take some time. Time plus tragedy equals comedy maybe.
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Speaker 2
33:35
Oh, good. I do I do agree that that this show can be shot anywhere and I'm very much looking forward to us being a traveling show. But for you know for the purposes of like getting a pilot as he got older I feel like this is this is where we are and happened to be right now. Well, bro, use Morgan Simpson our mutual church friend us he used to go to used to go to that. As I did. Yeah, see?
Law Smith
34:03
This is a real thing. I think I started out that we skipped a church in LA is like I don't believe it. For the third day
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Speaker 2
34:13
when I met my wife she she was going she was going to church with like her group of friend girl all these super hyper men I was gonna say are all that's why you're all fine. So like
Law Smith
34:25
this is the church that Reese Witherspoon was like sitting next to me. Yeah, okay Peace be with your number
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Speaker 2
34:31
starting to make sense. Yes. Yeah, no, no, I mean LA is full is full of like, it's it's still kind of like the Wild West out here in that like, if you wanted to start a church, you could do that. It would take like a charismatic young like, Pastor preacher guy and if he could get the attention of the right people he could certainly be funded have a space to do it like have a congregation that's like, shut all the ballots. Yeah, his message. And Jimmy was that guy Jimmy told
Law Smith
34:56
me dirty jokes. You for the first time I met him. He told me the film. These jokes have ever heard my life and filthier than any comic and I was like, I will go to your church.
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Speaker 2
35:05
What what usually falls apart is when that that guy moves on for some reason or changes locations or leaves and then the organization falls apart because it's like it would be like Kirsch leaving, you know, the branch davidians though they just like get this good metaphor. We sort of need the charismatic figurehead Dwayne
Law Smith
35:23
l Ron, were to pull in Waco into this nice you You got it.
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Speaker 2
35:29
But yeah, no fads was like this was just like super chill. Super cool. It was like it was like Sunday Bible study really, it was really Episcopalian like kind of mellow and, and they had a they had like coffee and doughnuts as you're walking it not afterwards, like the Catholics using your doughnuts beforehand, and you carry them in. And
Law Smith
35:50
so what the one thing they have and I tried to get my church to do is they didn't play Jesus filled lyric songs. They played real, like New Orleans brass band, like, yeah, the talent level was like, insane. You walk in, you'd be like, I pay $70 to watch this at night. Like this is like, these guys, but they were still religious songs is no, no, no, no, no, every song we were
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Speaker 2
36:16
playing like, like the band, and then somebody would get up in singing to read the song. And then we'd play like, band of horses or something like, right? The talent in
Law Smith
36:24
that room. Like, I was like, Man, I'm a piece of shit compared to everybody else in here. Like everybody's like, Oh, yeah, this kid's going to Berkeley on a guitar scholarship. And like, you know, guitar scholarships. Yeah, they're like, this guy's a prodigy. And he's just wait, he's just at high school.
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Speaker 2
36:41
Oh, professional session musicians like drummers bass singers holding the drummer
Law Smith
36:47
Johnny, I still see commercials for Dr. Pepper every every every year now. Like it was. It's weird. It was a weird kind of congregation. But before I before we forget, because we tried to keep these episodes pretty, pretty slender. And we'll come back. Yeah, I can tell. Well, what is that before we keep only the important stuff? And I got a heart out is what advice would you tell your 13 year old self? Could be house place related? House place for anybody listening? That's the pilot. That's the show. a deal? DIY hg TV ish parody. That is fucking hilarious. But you got to find a password wall. So I don't know. I do
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Speaker 2
37:35
have a buddy password wall for purposes right now of you know, we're trying to sell it. I don't need you know, I don't I just don't. I'm trying to muddy the waters of our of our efforts.
Law Smith
37:45
I don't know. I gotcha. But
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Speaker 2
37:48
my 13 year old self? That's an interesting question. I'd say I would be like, Hey, man, listen, play a little bit more of a participatory role in your own life. Maybe you know her that actively make decisions and and, and like, try to focus yourself through life rather than just allowing it to wash over you. Like maybe have a plan is what I would suggest to myself introduced there was a long period of like, even when I went to college after after high school, I think that's the way that I did it. I went to high school in college. I didn't I literally applied to one to one to two schools got into one I was like, yeah, go that one. Whatever. No big deal. And you know, it's great school. I don't know if it was the right one for me. I let my mother write my essay to go to Northwestern. I wonder why I didn't get in.
Law Smith
38:39
smarter, right, I was beat plus. We're gonna get a naval mom. It's only to our south.
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Speaker 2
38:46
Yeah. But it would be to actively participate in and to have a plan. Have a plan more so than you know, my plan was to come out here and just be an actor and I did that but it you know, and it's worked sometimes and then it's not worked other times I've had real estate investments that have been very essential to my ability to even stay here that's honestly like, what saved my ass more than more than anything else
Law Smith
39:12
that makes sense real estate while you're doing house place. Yeah, you're pulling from that that that that tool belt. Good one. Thank you. I still as sharp as you knew is you knew me back in LA.
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Speaker 2
39:29
I mean, I think I honestly if I could do it all over just from coming to LA I would I would have gotten into like some commercial real estate as well. As well as doing standards. You can always you can always have creative endeavors. You just don't necessarily have to like make them be central pillar of your working life.
Law Smith
39:45
I agree, brother. Well, thanks for coming on. Thanks for this was entertaining to say the least. It's just your face.
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Speaker 2
39:53
Mmm, it's good to see you too. Eric. Very nice to meet you. Yeah, man. Thanks for coming on. You got you got you got good arms man. You're good. Don't like that Hamilton. Don't. Don't. Sucks. Hamilton sucks. Yeah, bro. Have you? Yeah. Hamilton does suck. Nobody is a thing. No Hamilton is amazing. That's what everybody's I just don't know if you've ever seen it with the right people right
Law Smith
40:20
prayer hands that was nice. Yeah, but when it when it's it's happening it is our three. Oh man so good.
40:32
You can say you can say the same thing about the music, man. I mean, I mean you got a prison and played music and that's that third act. Just forget about the thank you Kurt. Sure. He Welcome to my favorite.
40:44
Alright boys
Law Smith
40:46
nuzzled that beard one day. I see. I'll see you when I see it.
