#304: How To Take The Show On The Road w/ Sarina Fazan
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SPEAKERS
Law (49%), Speaker 2 (24%), Speaker 3 (17%), Speaker 4 (4%)
Law Smith
0:00
sweat equity podcast and streaming show the number one comedy business podcast in the world pragmatic entrepreneurial visor with real dogs. I'm your host loss Smith sitting on your left my right on your right on the to my left. Eric Readinger Oh man, this is gonna be a little bit sloppy guys. We're doing this at a surina fuzz on dining table. I got it right.
0:29
He got the name right for the first time. Well,
Law Smith
0:32
I want everybody to see the four Emmys in the background. We try to put that as a little bit of setting if you're watching us on video. We are 2020 is best small medium enterprise business advisory podcast in the United States. Yeah, that's an award. It's real. It's for sure real you know how real it is. It came from Lux global Excellence Awards, proudly hosted by Lux Life magazine. You can listen to this podcast on iTunes, Apple podcasts, Spotify, make sure to rate give us a five star write a little comment, subscribe. That's the cheat code that gets us up the podcast rankings. I really want us to get up the business podcast ranks because we don't belong there. And I think it'd be really funny. You know, we're right there with Jordan Harbinger. We're right there with a bunch of other real business podcasts. This one is a little bit more authentic. We're doing a swap cast with Serena's on the record, I think right? Yeah, that's what we're doing more on YouTube live on her stream. So go subscribe over there isn't cirino phases. Yeah, and then this episode of sweat equity is brought to you by ExpressVPN. Try expressvpn.com forward slash sweat like ki sweat gets you three months free off an annual plan. What's the VPN? You say? It's a virtual private network. It's like a cloud computer in the sky. You don't want to be tracked. You want to go look at the office in Finland. Well, you can go Express VPN try expressvpn.com Forbes forward slash sweat like he sweat like Montez sweat, like sweat equity, gets you three months free off an annual plan. Who's doing that for you? No one's doing that for you. Don't be tracked by big data. Try expressvpn.com forward slash wet. That's the hookup holler if you hear me. Let's get this party started.
2:22
What about my sweat?
Law Smith
2:26
Gotta get fired.
Law Smith
2:32
From the mic.
2:42
What's a little wobbly? fix it in post? Oh, see?
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Speaker 2
2:45
That's what I love fixing it in post. That is so impressive. I am no serious. You guys are great. I mean, I don't know what I would do without Joe Papadopoulos helping. Let's face it. Technically. No, we just talked about this before going on the podcast, or am I allowed to speak now? Or?
Law Smith
3:03
I'm listening. I was trying to listen for house.
3:06
Yeah, you're saying it like the holiday? Can you? But you
Law Smith
3:09
got to get up on that mic. Okay,
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got it. No, no. Well, we were talking about point
Law Smith
3:12
at her. So Kimber is our associate producer. She's gonna point out when we're away from the mic, that's her job.
3:18
You know what? That is a great idea. Yeah. When you can't hear us point at us. Yeah.
Law Smith
3:21
Yeah. So he's away from Mike.
3:23
Yeah, good. Rest was away from the mic. Good job.
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Speaker 2
3:26
Kimber Papadopoulos. Is this her first executive producing job?
3:31
executive producer. first of many. That's a quick promotion.
Law Smith
3:37
So surina, on the record, on the record record, it's been going really strong. I see. You're getting a lot of good guests I saw you had some of my marketing friends on recently. Tell me where you're going with the podcast, why people should get into it. I'm going to hijack your style of investigative reporting.
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Speaker 2
3:54
I really appreciate you asking me that question. Because you guys have honestly been there for me from the very beginning. And if it wasn't for the two of you, I wouldn't even have had a podcast.
Law Smith
4:06
You guys were the ones were basically both Jesus. Yeah. Yeah. I
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Speaker 2
4:10
mean, they both push me into having a podcast and I love her podcast is my favorite part. So thanks to CB communications and Red House streaming, which is in St. Petersburg, Florida. They are actually carrying my podcast now on a news set. So something that I'm very familiar with since I was on television news for so long. So that facility is absolutely amazing. And it's an it it's an honor to be there.
Law Smith
4:39
So you know, you did something that was really smart. And this is let's let's kind of, I'd be remiss if we didn't throw in a little bit of kind of business, he kind of talk is that you realize that it might be better to partner with someone that could go hey, you know, I'm peanut butter, their chocolate, let's make a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup kind of thing. And so it seems Like you've got a great partnership What? Joyce I'm just
5:02
an interesting combo. I didn't think he was gonna say jelly.
5:06
I know. Yeah,
Law Smith
5:07
we all thought he was when I Zig. When do you think of zigging and zagging? That's that's, that's the standard Zagazig. Hey, jokes are magic tricks. Remember that? I just watched the prestige. I think I know Matt, by the way, you
5:19
know, candy called zig zag.
Law Smith
5:21
Oh, yeah, we know. And there's something else you can zigzag you can use for something else. But I won't say it because there's children at the table. But what what I was saying is you did something that a lot of people sometimes don't don't realize, you know, it's kind of know what you don't know, right? And so you go, Hey, I'm not strong over here. I think I could partner with these guys. And honestly, you have a set over there that Eric and I are jealous of I see it every time I see it on social media. I'm like, I kind of want a new set that looks cool, even though we have no business being there.
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Speaker 2
5:53
Yes, you do. And you know what, no grades. Let her finish. And you know, what's so great about Red House streaming, though? And CB communications, honestly, is that the way everything is changing? Now everybody wants their own newsroom. Everybody wants their, you know, they're doing their own podcast, right. But you can have your own set, and they make it possible. In my story, what happened? The CEO, and the general manager had been watching my podcast that I was doing, and they asked if they could take, take my podcast and take it from there. Because they just launched the Red House streaming aspect of it. And for me,
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Speaker 3
6:35
I mean, what an honor and privilege you know, I said, of course, and but you just to not to discount any credit from you. You had been working hard at building that brand for literally years. I don't consider them a Johnny come lately. But let's face it, you you laid all the groundwork, you got up to what 50 plus episodes, you developed the following. You know what I mean? You kind of proved the concept. And why shouldn't you be in a nice state of the art place?
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Speaker 2
7:07
Thank you so much, Joe, that was so such kind words, thank you. And I appreciate it. They did base it. The owner and the CEO, and the general manager did base it on my reputation in the Bay Area for landing, you know, exclusive interviews, all the hard work that I've done as a journalist, and then my podcast. And now I think it's up to 70 episodes, but at that point when they started taking it from their studio, we Yeah, it was close to 60. And I proposed the idea of doing Super Bowl shows, because of course that was an unprecedented time. And for us was fantastic.
7:46
No big deal.
Law Smith
7:47
Yeah. Producers give me notes. Okay.
7:50
Really, what did Kimber say?
Law Smith
7:52
She said, you need to talk into the mic.
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Speaker 4
7:54
Okay. All right. So I mean, her dad's an audio engineer. Yeah, yeah, you act like he's a big deal. You they would have anything if you weren't attached to it. It sounds like they got the surina fees on podcast and like, yeah, you're getting replaced. Oh, like, but I mean, seriously, it's not like,
Law Smith
8:10
they could just you know, that's the part of it where you're, you're so thankful in your in your genuine and you're not just putting that on. And when you're, you're thanking them, that is you. That's what the good thing about having a podcast is, is we were in this weird kind of world where we're in way more sound bites than ever. And then people were finding these longer form conversations that are a little bit more authentic. So if anybody thinks you're kind of putting an on almost in a way, like, you know, the southern women be like, bless your heart kind of thing. It's not that it's not that you're what you're saying when you are grateful. It is genuine. And I'll vouch for that.
8:47
Yeah. Oh, when we're wearing jewelry, to constantly be like, What
Law Smith
8:50
are you talking about? Like,
8:51
why are you acting like you're not, you know, it's
Law Smith
8:52
good. Like, you're good. So the way we met was that that kind of that kind of thing. Were you were kind of figuring out your next move, and we had to be like your male cheerleaders, like, What are you talking about? We used to watch cheerleaders. Yeah, but male cheerleaders are specific. They're, they're a weird breed. I think. I always say, I'll be your biggest male cheerleader. If you tell me you want to do something. I will probably annoy you about what you want to do that. And so we met through a mutual friend that that that what's it called? She's, she's tough.
9:26
She's honest. You wanted to make sure that I was on my microphone.
9:30
She's floor directing right now.
Law Smith
9:32
Yeah, I love it. I love it. Love it.
9:34
years old and already floor director as well.
Law Smith
9:36
So put it on the resume. Let's get your LinkedIn profile. And so want to be our intern. And so my thing is you were you were doubting yourself with a lot of self talk about not being as good as you are, which I get, but I get it. I think about it all the time. You can have a lot of radio noise where you're just kind of like, you know or imposter syndrome. Probably more formal term of it. But we were kind of being like, What are you talking about you? First off every time we have you on our podcast, we let you hijack it, because you're a better interviewer way
10:10
easier. So much easier.
Law Smith
10:12
Yeah, when we have you on as a guest, we go, oh, it'll be easy one because we know like, we can go Oh, she's gonna ask a lot of questions. So we don't have to really think about it. Not that we do a lot in a way. But that's, that's more my laziness, I think with it. But I think what you did was really smart. You kind of had an ego death, in a way. And you saw that and you go, Okay, I got to work on this brand. It's not gonna happen overnight. It were we fast forward three, four years. From when you we all first met?
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Speaker 2
10:47
Well, it's I think it's only been two Can you believe?
10:51
No way? No way. So
10:52
right. It's longer not
Law Smith
10:54
really 2018 re Yeah, I can your market by the drama of my household. Pre divorce. So
11:03
get some mental markers, because I remember I
Law Smith
11:05
remember coming in to help you. And I was like, my head, I don't even know I can't even help you just figure it out. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know that button knows something. I remember coming down on like, a Sunday to help, like, go over it with you. And I was like, I'm frazzled. I got nothing. So I can kind of earmark it by by drama, or trauma, or whatever you want to call it. But tell us now. So you're at this area I'm always interested in you get to a point. And you call it like a workout plateau. So you get to a point where you're like, you know, I've gotten here, but it being content is is kind of the worst thing in business. Right? So what what are the kind of plans going forward? What do you want to do with your podcast? Or what do you want to do with your your brand? And if you don't have an answer, I can kind of vamp.
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Speaker 2
11:52
Oh, no, you guys are so I mean, so amazing. And to ask me those questions, too. So for me, I mean, this is just the beginning, right? I mean, there's so much I need to do with the podcast, I need to build viewership up for my own show, I have to say, I love having my own show for many reasons. Because I am so passionate about people sharing their journeys, sharing their stories, and having your own show, as you guys both know, you're an executive producer, as well, you determine who's on the show, you determine the length of the show. Now, as what we were talking about earlier, it's amazing. Like, you know, going on YouTube Live, so I have so much more to do, guys. I mean, this is just just the very, very beginning.
Law Smith
12:36
So we're no but that's all good. But I'm gonna I'm gonna hammer
12:41
right answers,
Law Smith
12:42
okay, I'll go I want goals. I want SMART goals. I want something that goes X amount by whatever. Oh,
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Speaker 2
12:49
okay. And maybe people who are listening to your podcast, watching it on YouTube can help me achieve those goals.
Law Smith
12:56
If anybody wants to go back and sweat equity episodes, like in January, I threw out here's the 20 goals I want to do this year. It's a little vulnerable, not not great. Not fun to do. But it there was an accountability thing to it. And there's more people that I didn't realize that I'm friends with that actually listen, because you know, your friends are like, I can hear you for free whenever I want to call you kind of thing. And I don't really want to talk to you that much. So, like, so I realized more friends of ours Listen, and we're calling me out on some of the stuff I had out there. As I was listening about 20 goals. So I didn't know if you had anything kind of Yeah, no,
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Speaker 2
13:33
we Okay. Do you guys wanna hear something? Yes. All right. Yeah. So what is a good number? Do you think of people I would say at least per episode, I would want 10,000 people, at least at a minimum to start watching the episodes, watching it. At least you know that when I go on my platform, like when I start going live on YouTube. Okay, I would love to have you know, at least like 10,000 start.
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drivers do you have now do you know,
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I don't have that many subscribers.
14:01
Don't worry about it. I'm just saying no, no,
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Speaker 2
14:02
no, that's a question. So my, my social, about 1100 on YouTube, and it's climb Everest. But I used to have a huge following on Facebook for years. And then I read so I relaunched all my social sites, right. So now and when we started to work together, so I realized so I had to relaunch everything. So I you know, of course, Twitter No, no, well, yeah,
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Speaker 2
14:30
yes. No. So, um, you know, because I feel like the topics and the topics we talk about are so important and are interesting. Like I just on my last podcast, I had a mother who decided to be a surrogate or two dads in France, who desperately wanted a baby and then I had an attorney. Also Come on, just to talk about on how to protect yourself, you know, but they you know, I mean, there's just so many Topics another goal though. So my friend, as I mentioned, Joe Papadopoulos is here. So Joe and I used to work together at a former television station. Yes. And I want so my email is serene at Srinath is on TV now.
Law Smith
15:13
Eric, give that on there. All right. Yeah. Well,
15:16
I mean, Eric,
Law Smith
15:18
set it up. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
15:20
He set it up for me. Yeah. He said it. Eric, your Eric Right here set up my Eric. Yes. So I would like to certify that to be so I here's what I the other goal, I want things that I would like to showcase what I feel I'm the best at and that's sharing people's stories, the technical aspects. The other stuff keeping me in line, I have to say, because I am all over the place. It's my job. Yes. And I would love one day on the record for Joe Papadopoulos to have that job.
Law Smith
15:54
Well, wow, wow, this magic moment, I have. Wow, I have we didn't plan this.
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Speaker 3
15:59
I haven't lock it down on one nice arena already. You know, full time job. I yeah. I'm also you know,
Law Smith
16:06
dad, and but your wisdom I can already tell before we're setting up that you know. And your teacher, the teacher, that's what is is the heart can be the hardest after you have. So we talked about wisdom being knowledge times experience, right? Yeah. And so, you know, there's a lot of guys in our marketing community that were kind of really, really in before that have the what they call the Dunning Kruger, they watch one YouTube video. And they think they know everything. Which I think wisdom is a commodity now, like, it's something that you're seeing a lot of people commoditize IP, right? Go, I know this, I I'm going to teach a course on it, or do your own thing, be entrepreneurial with it. So I cut you off, though, I tend to do that.
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Speaker 3
16:50
No, I was I was saying, really what I wanted to say was how flattering it is that she would, you know, want me to take on such a large role in her brand. Listen, I like helping friends of mine, I have sure you know, a line out my classroom door of teachers who need and want my help. And I'm always happy to help for video editing and things like that shooting, they all have programs that that they need shot and edited in the theater. My friend here, you know, Serena, of course, other people outside and some of the business relationships that I have. They're always, you know, calling or whatever, I love helping people. And I want to help everybody. My only issue is that there's only 24 hours in a day, right? If there was 30 or 35 in a day, I would be as happy as you know, a pig and slop because I could get everything that everybody wants done. You know what I mean? Sure. So I have to pick and choose and I also have to work smart, not hard. Yep. You
Law Smith
17:51
know what I mean? We talk about that a lot. Yeah.
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So
Law Smith
17:55
yeah, that part of us doing this podcast, I was just having a conversation with, you know, my new CEO, I was like they want to get a podcast are gonna go look, you know, Eric, and I've been doing this about five years, we've got it down pretty, pretty streamlined as far as time spent on it. And that was a focus, when we started it, we can't spend a lot of time doing it, you know, we should probably do a couple more things, but a little bit more time. And one thing that I had a mentor kind of tell me. And this isn't to say against your schedule, I'm just saying for anybody listening, that if you've ever put out your schedule, first off, if you've ever tracked your time, diligently for like a week, you'll find started doing that you will find you will find how much time I have a problem where I'll think about doing a lot I was having a problem. I was thinking about a lot of stuff and not doing right. It's common. There's a lot of a lot of people have that right. And I kind of been trying to knock that off it you know, call it whatever. But that one thing we're our mentor was talking to us about why don't you do your schedule and break out every 15 minutes of your day. And you're like okay, and you do that every morning and you look at you go you know I'm not trying to find you more time it's not I'm not making this specific to you I'm just saying this is something common with everybody I talked to Bill Gates does it every five minutes well attorneys billable hour sometimes every six minutes. So one of those things Oh my God, we got to get you off. No. But whatever works.
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Speaker 2
19:34
Look at this though, it marks the time like because I was thinking the same thing. What am I doing? Why am I so frazzled at the end of every day? How much did I get done? So I'm one of those people you know, again, a little technical challenge. But take a look at
Law Smith
19:49
it. If that works for you though that's great. But a
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Speaker 2
19:51
blocks out that I worked on a Tampa Crossroads which is a local nonprofit agency. On this particular day for so many hours. They I did a one blood, work with them, then visit Tampa Bay, which I'm so humbled and honored by being named the POWs, the host of their podcast, then I've been put here personal emails back to one blood, a shoot. So it just at the end of the day that I can look and think you know what happened to my day? I can actually see it. But I think that's a very,
Law Smith
20:22
it's true when you do it proactively. And then you have to what one thing I wasn't doing for a couple years, so I wasn't assessing, right? I wasn't looking backward at the time when and going, am I spending time in the right? So when I had my agency, I was I was trying to, I was trying to do business development to track bad, just bad. I knew they're bad clients. And I'm spending way more time trying to track down these clients just to get it going. And emotion. Yeah, it Oh, yeah. Don't, you know, doesn't help you sleep. It affects a lot of stuff, and making decisions emotionally over rationally, a lot of the time that'll mix into it. So I found out it's kind of twofold. It's like, you got to schedule it out. But you also have to assess, you know, go on your go on a front porch are going to walk and look at the time and go like, okay, am I doing the things I want to do? And this sounds very simple, and kind of almost overly simplistic. But you'd be surprised if you actually do it. You'll find there. I'm not saying there's enough hours in the day, you'll find more hours kind of thing. And maybe this is because I've been in Project Manager mode for like the last month what I'm doing with work, but Oh, you're keeping me on to a lesser degree. I
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Speaker 4
21:40
just started doing stuff where I was like, Okay, I gotta make this phone call. Realistically, how long is that going to take? 10 minutes, right? It's like, in my mind, am I gonna call that guy? And it's gonna, you know, and I don't? And you do? It turns into something. It's not if you realistically, it's might be a five minute call instead, if you can spin that into I don't have to I get to sometimes, yeah, that helps a lot. That's a big deal.
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Speaker 2
22:02
It's the mindset, right? Because I do struggle with that a lot. Show Did you we're going to say,
22:07
Well, here's what I struggle with.
Law Smith
22:11
And I didn't want to make that personal.
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Speaker 3
22:13
No, you're not. But you're right. I, even if I were to and my day is pretty structured, I have a bell schedule, I have students, I have to say my day is more awesome than anybody's
22:25
use go all the brilliant app?
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Speaker 3
22:27
Well, you know, when you get when you're a teacher, you have, yeah, you're going to be every every four to six minutes. So. But beyond that, beyond the structure of my day, I have so many things going on that I I struggle with prioritization. Right. So that's kind of what I'm getting to, I want to take the low hanging fruit and just knock it out. Yeah, but there's so much low hanging fruit, that I find myself literally in the weeds, and then it's hard for me to get to the stuff that, you know, either makes me money or allows me to, you know, pleasure, you know, it's like I want I want to get to that stuff. But I have so much so many little dumb little things that I find myself having to do you know,
23:17
but are they dumb? And little are they just,
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Speaker 3
23:19
I mean, did anything it's you got to do the answering the emails as the renewing the insurance rates, the
23:25
but you still got to do it, you've got to do it. But
Law Smith
23:28
this is the best invention. And the worst thing, this phone a phone, right this thing. I think it's the best invention of the last 50 years, right? But it's a blessing and a curse. Because it's everywhere, right? So when we think we're being productive with this thing, it's not I tend to I, if I can, I'll just put my phone down and I almost throw it away, like I want to run in the forest, you know, like, because I won't be able to focus a lot of the time, I found out when I did that, and I got away from that. Because you can you can create thing, more tasks. There's a never ending to do list for everybody. Right? I think what you're talking about, there's two strategies to it. There's some people like to eat the frog do that. Do the hardest thing first, right? And get that out of the way. Or it sounds like you're doing the small wins theory where, hey, I like checking off a few things. I'm gonna I'm gonna stereotype your audio guy. You're probably very particular. Right? So you probably like a little bit more admin and clerical to get things going. Yeah, to kind of get built inertia, right? Yeah. It just yeah. So just like Eric and I've talked about this a lot on the podcast, too. It's just like dieting, right? Like, everybody's gonna be different. Everybody's gonna work differently, but you have to treat yourself. It has to be your own. You have to be your own guinea pig.
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Speaker 4
24:52
Yeah. How do you feel best at the end of the day by putting a little bit of time into just watching TV for half an hour or whatever it is, you know, that'll make you feel better mentally. Or like not doing it at all because you feel guilty about watching it for half an hour. That's up to you. That's gonna be like you got a dress that you know for yourself sort of thing where it's like, and you know and not like, but I haven't get
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Speaker 3
25:12
what we're talking about exponential Yes. shows that you both are dads Yeah. Hi dad like kids are younger than mine. I remember when mine was for how much it I don't want to say time suck as a bad thing. But it's a time suck. You cannot knock out a quick edit right or or make a quick phone call. Right? Because you feel guilty and you want to
Law Smith
25:35
spend time with that. Yeah.
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Speaker 4
25:37
Oh my god, you're not engaged with them. So quit. And if I mean, at least my kids are like, you're not. You're not looking. You're not watching. You're not actually writing what you're saying. Oh
25:44
my god.
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Speaker 4
25:45
I'm sorry. Okay. Now, now we're doing it for real now. You know, it's like, but you're right in there a wildcard. You never know what you're going to be putting in right? I mean, it's it's tough. You know, you're
Law Smith
25:58
you're good dad. Yeah,
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Speaker 2
25:59
mine is 13 in the time goes by way too fast. Because it's true. Now. She doesn't I know. Like, she doesn't want to be around right?
Law Smith
26:07
I mean,
26:07
yeah, like they just you're in
Law Smith
26:09
that zone. I'm in
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Speaker 2
26:10
that zone, which she has, which has a lot of friends to you and she has the time with your friends. But I have to say like yesterday, I was not feeling well at all. And she was there. right by my side making sure
Law Smith
26:22
that I was okay when it matters. So, Jo Jo, I can tell is a good dad because I'm getting associate producer nodes. What is good, what is good. No one were too loud. She's gonna raise her hand. She's giving us a signal that she has. She's
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Speaker 3
26:35
loving and she has an internal art. I want her to babysit my kids who knows what an RTI is? Nope.
Law Smith
26:41
We live in a world of acronyms. I can't keep up real a real time analyzer. Okay, great.
26:46
I got those in your in your on your rack. Yeah,
Law Smith
26:50
I mean, you're one of those.
26:53
Are you a weighted or are you guys a weighted or see weighted?
Law Smith
26:56
I'm gonna get a beer while you answer this.
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Speaker 2
26:57
Okay, can I put something on the record as we digress and talking about Kimber Papadopoulos even before Joe had Kimber Papadopoulos, Kimber. So Joe and I, your dad and I have worked together for years and years and years. And so he told me, I am going to have a daughter one day, and I'm going to name her Kimber Papadopoulos. And so I said to him at the time I'm I said, Joe, is it not Kimberly that Kimberlin but he's like, no, it has to be Kimber. And so then I said, but what if your partner your you know, your wife, your girlfriend does not say says no to Kimber. And he said, That's not going to happen because I am my daughter will be named Kimber Papadopoulos. Well, if he or she is 10 years ago,
27:42
if you had another syllable 10 years ago, my daughter six
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Speaker 4
27:46
Papadopoulos has a lot of syllables. Kimberly, Papa, you're adding those things on big time.
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Speaker 2
27:53
Kimber Papadopoulos, but yes, she is quite simply within she, but you guys so okay. I love throwing in like the, the, the stories, right and, you know, personal elements. But you guys brought up a very good point, because I have a question. As an entrepreneur. We're very good. So yes, these are very good. And I'm so impressed with I just like, do you guys.
Law Smith
28:10
I like doing a Donald Trump self promotion. I think it's funny to me.
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Speaker 2
28:14
But I have a question. You know, your question for advice in this town.
Law Smith
28:18
What's up?
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Speaker 3
28:19
Can you get a Trump steak in this town? Because I feel like, as you know, I don't listen. I don't want to talk about a politics thing here. But like him or not, I feel like I want to try a Trump steak is good. I mean, if it's a great steak, I'll admit that it's a great
Law Smith
28:34
like taking the Johnson Johnson shot right now. I don't know that seems risky. Said he doesn't
28:39
want to make it political. Okay,
Law Smith
28:40
well, I wasn't bringing up anything. I don't know. Like, I
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Speaker 4
28:45
didn't know I just like you mean like a stake in one of his companies.
Law Smith
28:50
He had, like, he had like, the best he had like an Omaha steak company. They're huge. But it was girl. I love it. You're doing great. Alright, so I cut it in what what we about
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Speaker 2
29:07
the advice and so Joe had had brought it up to about when you look at your tasks in your life, and you want to prioritize and there's things that you know, you need to get done. When you were talking about you know, you've got to pay the insurance, you've got to do this, you have to do that which we do. And Eric, what you were talking about watching you can choose to watch like your half hour show or choose to work. So what I have found, I do work a lot, but sometimes they'll sit there and watch Grey's Anatomy, right, like, you know, try to get caught up for 45 minutes. And then I do feel guilty because I think okay, these are 45 minutes where I could have done a project or work but the projects I'm not good at so here's my question the bottom line. The projects that you're not good at, or you struggle with for me, the technical stuff, the bills, this and that. Do you hire out Yeah, you But what if you can't
30:02
play to your strengths? Well, I mean, then you got to work around it. I mean, if you ask, should you hire out? So I'm assuming you can you don't
Law Smith
30:09
delegate out until you have to? Yeah,
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I can't
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Speaker 2
30:12
hire out. I can't completely hire out yet. And, Eric, you've been there with me from the beginning, you both have been there. But I guess the question is to ask you, you guys, do you have to, you know, people always say you have to spend money to make money, right?
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Speaker 3
30:26
I don't know. I don't know if this is related or not. But I used to be one of these control freaks, where I would do everything myself. everything right, I would literally, I would get off the air at 11 1130. Right, you know, working the night shift, I would drive home. And I would put my SUV up on ramps, and I would change my own oil. And I was thinking hey, I'm not only am I saving money, because I could, let's say change my oil for $12 or buy the 24 you know, to get it done so in my mind of saving money, but I thought there was this sense of this stupid sense of pride of doing it yourself because you're doing it right and I'd listened to the music on and you know, I'm, I'm one day I just remember I'm in my slop sink in my garage, getting cleaned up after an hour of watching oil drain and lubricating my drive shaft and it's not a euphemism, you know, adding g range, adding the you know, differential fluid, like I'm doing the whole thing. And I like I literally bought a grease gun like I was over the top, okay, in my garage. And then I think about those days in my mid to late 20s. While I'm now in my early 40s. And I'm thinking that was such an unnecessary time suck. Yeah, cost benefit because I'm not a NASCAR pit crew chief. This is a was a it was a it was a late 90s SUV that had no, it had no like, why didn't I just go to the Jiffy Lube every three months instead of being a jerk. And thinking that I was thinking that I was saving time I wasted so much time for zero benefit all I did was get dirty and spill probably over the 10 years I lived in that house. Maybe five gallons of oil on the garage Sure. Just drops here and there. You know what was I doing? So see if I had that time to do all over like wisdom. If you had your wits about you, then like you do now you would you would not make as many time mistakes the on? What is it's like an old Catholic thing. Oh, my hat's off.
Law Smith
32:49
When that to the Kentucky Derby. The you don't have to get it don't want it. The the what is it the on the unanalyzed life is not worth living. It's like Socrates or Catholicism philosophy. Those are the things that that's kind of what I was talking about with the time thing. You can get your thinking at that. But it doesn't My head is like you look like a Peruvian woman. Thank you. I do wear hats like I take that as a compliment. And that'll
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be your heads. I can't see.
Law Smith
33:22
Peyton Manning thinks I have a big forehead. So it it's one of those things where, you know, you can get you can you can add endless things to your to do list like that. And you can never sit down and recognize I always talk about like have a have a glass of whiskey on the porch and kind of think about the day and you can go back and go, what do I need to do that? But I bet you weren't because you probably had other things you're doing too. Now I'll counter this to I'll be a hypocrite in one way. I think it's good to figure out projects. Now tasks is one thing, but projects where you're figuring out stuff. We've never done it before. I think that's cool. I think that helps. Like I would want to take some kind of auto mechanics class because I don't know anything about it. But is it for me to fill up my calendar with menial tasks, you know, like that. So you have to find that cost benefit like Eric was talking about,
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Speaker 3
34:22
you know, the problem was in between 2002 and probably 2005 i just i had no girlfriend so I just I would just
Law Smith
34:30
go I was
34:32
gonna make you feel better about yourself. Yeah, I
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Speaker 3
34:34
had no girlfriend. I had three cars. I had a I had a 1981 and a half Datsun two No, they had a half years back then. Yeah, they did. I had a dog we were talking
34:45
about the radius yaks. That's how
Law Smith
34:47
I was it to my kids ages. Yeah.
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Speaker 3
34:50
So I would change that oil prematurely By the way, just just just to just to do it like this. This may be 1000
Law Smith
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miles
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Speaker 3
35:00
Change the oil got to change. Then I had my regular daily driver and then I have my SUV. I'm I'm unnecessarily change. I feel like I kept Quaker state in business being just in
Law Smith
35:12
those three years. Now they're there now. So anybody listening that may be younger? That's something to take away. What are your thoughts? For sure,
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they don't know what will change like a pointy Tesla.
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Speaker 2
35:26
Yeah, and I know that we are like way going over on your podcast time.
Law Smith
35:31
Look, I'll go deep as far as Erica, let me but I don't know what time we have. We're gonna wrap this up in three minutes. Three
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minutes. Yeah.
35:38
I told you what time
Law Smith
35:43
works. All right. I've done talk. Alright, so
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Speaker 2
35:47
maybe the next time maybe the next time we can talk about my favorite topic loving dating in America with these three
Law Smith
35:57
young gentlemen put all this garbage business II stuff. Kimber Papadopoulos here
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are the flower girls my love.
36:05
Wow, that's a quick, quick
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Oh, Mike. Okay, Kimber? Yeah, that's perfect. Perfect. Yes,
Law Smith
36:11
I'll be the ring boy,
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if you keep talking about what catches we are and all that.
Law Smith
36:16
So here's a here's a here's what I say. Let's give some call to actions on the record. I'd be a you can't be a good marketer if you don't have the call to action right. On the record, I taught my students what a call to action was during that during their PSA assignment, teach them the sales funnel know that'll help them learn everything that call to action sales funnel. Wrapping up. All right, she's given productive notes. On the records on Apple, Apple podcast app, Spotify.
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Eric set it up. Actually, it's all it's all Google
Law Smith
36:51
Google Play. Now YouTube channel, Facebook. surina. fuzz on dot dot media. Okay.
37:00
Thanks to Eric. Okay. and.tv works and.com
37:04
Erickson everything up for me?
37:05
Yep. Yep,
Law Smith
37:06
he's a champ.
37:07
You're too new to lights around. I know. I
Law Smith
37:10
need to do this over. Wait, that's important to do. Wait, wait, hold on. We got to do this again. No. sweat equity pod calm sweat equity podcast on Apple, iTunes, Amazon podcasts. Google we do we have a
37:26
sponsorship or something with that. Yeah. We got to follow up on these.
Law Smith
37:31
That's another that's me. That's on me.
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Speaker 2
37:33
That's another one of my goals. I would love to have someone sponsor my podcast.
Law Smith
37:36
Yeah, we'll get you in touch with our advertising company. If you want to do at least what we were doing like the ExpressVPN you can get. we'll hook you up with them. That's fine. Thank you. And then anything else? Anything else? I
37:49
missed? VPN? separate entities.
Law Smith
37:52
We work through an ad agency called varitone. One that gives us a you can go Hey, I'll take that deal. I'll take that deal. We'll take that offer. But it's all it's all. Affiliate affiliate links affiliate marketing. Yeah. So it's affiliate link so you can we only get a kickback when they use the link. But you know, it's it is it's it is what it is right now is bonus. What my question is, is,
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Speaker 3
38:15
is that VPN separate from Norton VPN? Yes, yes.
Law Smith
38:19
Yeah. I prefer your Express VPN. It's it's solid offer code sweat. Yeah. Great. I forgot. I have worse ADHD than anything else. forget anything. All right, we'll close this out. Listen, thanks for listening. Thanks for going live. You want to close this out
38:46
and also lather down to the
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other drivers to be cute.
