#301: How To Naturally Address Your Mental Health w/ David Ben
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what about my sweat equity
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sweat equity
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what about my sweat equity all right fantastic i've got a little preamble for our side because we'll make the swap cash we'll put this on sweat equity buck and i'd have it no other way and being the number one business comedy podcast comedy being the main adjective here jd power and associates everything's kind of under the guise of comedy right yeah
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understood and making all this up you know we live in a state where it's illegal to do
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certain certain kind of drugs that we might be talking about and so everything said in jest well yeah let me weigh in my as as my listeners know my name is david ben so if that tells you anything you being a long standing friend i have a little podcast name like a new name so we try to hover around specifics we try to make everything circumstantial so if anybody were to probe there's just too much looseness within the the construct to make it stick sure and your real name is up on the zoom call like that
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well nobody will ever know my real name that listens to my podcast so if they happen to jump through other jump through other hoops and go check out sweat equity then you can figure it out but yeah you want to rename yourself on there so when we use the video yeah i mean i i honestly don't give a shit but okay trying to see yeah i mean trying to be vague enough to where people just can't be dicks about it you know how about this don't make it easy for a cursory google google search to find out what people if they want to find out none of my google searches are cursory they're very well thought out detailed extensive pores while i was doing a i was doing a bunch of interviews last two weeks and like so i did a duck duck go search for myself and i was like okay well anything that really shows up is our podcasts that
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could ruffle feathers i guess
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if you're kind of conservative it's not going to be your favorite it came up in my interview 10 minutes into meeting meeting putting ourselves out there and if people don't receive it they can receive it and you know what the note was fair it was like you don't need to you know be filthy and cost that much is like you know that's a fair point no i don't need to yeah no i that's what i said i mean look it heightens the experience but
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the josh potter show has a good boy clock so they got to go 10 minutes without saying anything terrible or a customer so they don't get demonetised now preacher lawson to the point where we're at that or we have to worry about being demonetised well you tell me if i'm going to come if i'm going to cost you money then i'll stay within the boundaries so let me know if you're at the point where we agree about that we have left youtube basically alone which i take 100% the fault for not helping on the marketing side of that
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well you're doing all yeah are one subscribers really disappointed right i'll tell you what they're pretty dedicated subscribers cuz that's me i'm the one subscribers i know so for those listening there's a good clock there's a there's a 10 minute clock right now as we're doing this in 2021 were you like that's how it clears like you can't say you can't even talk about like vaccines and stuff okay well you just blew it then yeah do we have to restart down no we're fine okay um we don't make any money off of that
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i make no money off of anything this is purely just a cat never going to no money pit for me just a way for me to spend all my money on something that that i only have fun with yeah i'm just saying i look i showed i showed eric
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a friend of mine you know i won't bring his name up on here but he he was giving me like hey i got this new gag pretty excited and that got into this weird like center ships thing and i'm like jesus christ one of my like friends turned into my dad my college friends turn he's the other bear jew if you remember from the bachelor party yes i certainly do so he's like turned on immediately yeah he's turned into like a super conservative or something and i'm like that jewish like like born again red stater kind of guy or like
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y'all are technically neighbors so yeah let's have a conversation i'll tell you about that off air but i don't want to hijack too much i just wanted a preamble that
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before i forgot cuz this is the fluff you know we're fluffing it up we're getting it ready now let's forget about foreplay that's most of the game honestly i learned that in my 30s that was way too late but you got to bring something to the table when you have a peter 30s i know that's
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a thumbnail i mean you have to have some other skills so you know that's what i was talking about me do you also have a thumbnail so
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when i had my discectomy yeah it was thumbnail size yeah that's they gave me a tiny pill case where do you have to do a sample and later i was like that's not fair you kind of did like the remove your thumb magic trick kind of to show me the process yeah it did look like belly button so scared so i tried to go inside make a tail on the other side now he was complaining about the size of the specimen cup that they give you when you have to return to make sure that it worked okay oh this gets serious real fast with your aim like is it like a four ounce big gulp or was it like a no opposite think of like the like you get like a prescription of whatever oxy oxy cotton or whatever you know will it be your casual day no
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i'm trying to think of a box prescription here amoxicillin because i had to get it for kids but they don't have pill form right it's the tiniest like orange bottle basically and i was like fuck you that's they give it to you after he leaves on the way out like a doggie bag so i was like that's not fair like what are you doing with this you do they give you arousal tools and you have to wait 90 days to make sure it works or like you don't intone your commodity everything you get like 11 kids well eric's too scared to get a sample done so he may be that he may be scared you broke the 48 hour rule so i don't even know you're off the chain well so congrats on your snippet i know that gives you free run like pretty much at this point you can just walk around with your dick out no i got a sample gave it to the nurse she's like wait here a high $5 after she said you're good worse should want to high five me but i did it anyway i mean it was a big moment yeah
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yeah but she doesn't care she's it comes like nothing to her it's like pine sauce swamp in this in this pandemic no big deal but she arguably she loves it the most like she's excited because that's the job she has is to look at all i mean they're they're getting eight guys in there a day i was doing the math there's like three guys right after me wow just like a conga line of dudes getting snipped it's only 600 bucks i've started about just keep my mind off of like an abortion price tag right like commensurate with what you pay for an abortion right um i've always heard it cost like double double okay but pretty much scrapple ate that out on how many you're saving on the back i mean you know no you're right you're right you're right my narcissism just is killing me here i have to talk about me and my my weekend in santa fe so yeah yeah
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santa fe is the closest place where i can go to meow wolf and they reopen okay well it's what's the brakes right yeah
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we're already stopping off the interstate what is meow wolf all right i just assumed that you knew because i think that one in austin or it's either opening up in austin texas as well but
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oh good point i don't know if you know as a as a self proclaimed psychonaut somebody that likes to experiment experiment with the regions and psychedelics and explore the mind territory a place that has a bunch of secret passages and amazing colors and toys and just this house of fun for kids when i take myself into that psychedelic state and i become five again it just is a playground so this place is basically like the local artists i think it's nationwide it's manifested into something larger but it started as like a local art project where people that were just really artistic in various ways kind of built this house of fun for everybody and like you'll open up a refrigerator and the refrigerator will be a secret passage to another room and that room might have a bunch of trees and these blake little furry creatures and it's just like a psychedelic enthusiast paradise or kid it also is super fun because you're walking through refrigerators and slides and shit like that it's insane it's open toys all year round well they just reopened so last year so i got a frog in my throat last year when i went out there with the wife they just closed we went out there for the weekend and the day that we arrived they closed due to COVID because it's really like right now you just look like you're in a storage unit that's gonna open up into something yeah i knew that was gonna come up so we have our basement being redone
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So essentially everything that was in the basement all my amateur mycology equipment, all that stuff is in frame in frame. So trust me This is not like a hoarders bathroom all of your stuff. Not all of it. There's a lot of scatter like that. I'm jealous as a dad. I'm jealous. Yeah, how many? He's got, like literally like I know. A $13 ones not the $10 ones. That's what the handles I clicked on. The ones that not the black and yellow ones. Yeah, you got to see through them. So you know. Yeah, so Allah, guys a bit OCD.
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About monotypes another time. Okay, meow wolf is open all year round. So it's it's open all year round. But since COVID, they just reopen March 19. Like, after a year. So you know, everything in their very hands on, you know, all the puzzles and everything is very tangible. You have guys, employees walking around like non stop cleaning everything that you touch. So they almost like contact trace on site and just wipe down stuff constantly. There's like No way.
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There's like a 95 year old dude in there that looked like he was just tripping balls just walking around. just wiping stuff down. He's having a blast. Yeah, I feel like I could go in that sober and have a good time. It Well, I didn't go sober. I decided to take a heroic journey through the meow Wolf by myself. And so I took a took three grams of B plus psilocybin initially, and then two more grams to kind of boost it throughout. So I was about five grams in just tripping balls experiencing the coolest playground you could possibly imagine. How long were you there? Probably about three, four hours
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a day. 100 feet.
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That guy still here? It's right. So like at one point you off? Have a good day. Bye. Well, I was already in. I was already in Santa Fe for I was doing guided MDMA therapy. So
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yeah. So I was there. I was there for business. I thought you definitely gonna say a word retreat. For me that I mean, essentially that work. So it's for you. I'm just saying I thought it was gonna be something different. No, yeah. And I do want to work it on yourself in that way. Yeah. And I do want to make it clear, like one of the things that on my podcast, the mustache room, we talk constantly about just ways to improve your, your psyche, your overall well being in any way that you can, that you can drum up so this, this being something that's you know, controversial legally, you know, still schedule one that kind of stuff. It's it's a little tough, you got to tiptoe around it. But Dude, I take this stuff for therapy, and it's been life changing. And a few years down the road, everybody will have access to it for therapy. That's that's where it's going. And I think anybody who's done it is in agreement like, you absolutely feel better the next day. Well, it's not even about that AI is bigger, things are brighter. It's it's pretty straightforward. No doubt, dude, I love all that stuff. But like when I you know, people think I take mushrooms. It's like a fun thing. Yeah, when I go to meow Wolf and trip balls by myself, I want to be a kid and you know, it's cool. I put on business. Dude, I had my briefcase, put on job work. I was wearing a three piece suit. I had music in my my my ears. It was awesome. You realize you had no three suit on? No matter? No three piece suit. But I did have music blasting the whole time. I was listening to like
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poor engi or rising Apple ages and my favorites just going boom, boom the whole time. Yeah, again, like meow wolf. Like you're just dropping some band names that, like, if you said String Cheese Incident, I'd be like, Okay, I know.
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I know them pull up the website, you can see what I'm talking about. It's it's insanely cool. But I was there just being a kid. And that was my non therapy portion of the weekend. The therapy portion was guided mollier guided MDMA. So I found a lady that specializes in both silicided and MDMA guided therapy. We had several conversations leading up to it. She kind of understood what I was trying to get after and essentially I'm trying to deal with some intimacy issues and some making love issues with the wife like I can fuck all day long but making love sometimes just becomes a task you know, because I'm, I'm so poor and heavy and I grew up with you know, vulgar shit all over the place. I Rocco siffredi you know, stepping on a girl's head while he dunks her dunks her in the toilet. You know, that's my acclimation to sex. So I'm working with the therapist to try to loosen the reins a little bit and not require like somebody spitting in my face to get off you know, just wow, that's like a left turn into sexual real quick like that. Well, yeah. Your honesty man. I am an open book my friend, right?
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Like
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it's one of those things like I'm I
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i'm glad i'm vanilla like any of that because it takes a certain kind of like
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you know partner effort yeah and a lot of effort honestly i'm kind of a lazy lover if i'm well i admire you i mean like that's the the early exposure to like i said rocco and his friends that that shaped me unfortunately for the rest of my sex life well so
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that's erickson's that's what he did say it again last name is to freddie though yeah i know but different rocket giovanni's like
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let it go and then you brought it back i can't i gotta say if your son has the caucus he's got to be important like that's that's the next step in his evolution right that well let him
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tell the school counselor all right oh no maybe i want to hear about the mdma theory yeah
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can i throw an mda mdma question my biggest the biggest reason i've never taken it is because i it's really hard to find like pure pure right like it's it you always hear the horror stories of people taking it and like something bad happens they have a bad reaction of course it's pride away very small very it's like someone getting COVID twice it's like almost not real
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and so what's it called how do you feel comfortable with that because that's why i don't want to do acid ever i just don't i don't it's it's kind of it's not a stepped on thing it's a man made thing but it's that thing of like it's synthetic to an extent i mean it it is you had its energetic 100%
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pure nature in that form there's like let's see sometimes
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i'm big risk averse purse and that's that's why we love you but dude it's got amphetamines in it so you know there is a risk with heart palpitations and some other stuff so you do have talking about the molly mdma yeah but i'm talking about how do you trust i guess i have a trust thing like what's the supply chain to get me it's just i mean it's just like anything else you know there's there are people that are that treated medicinal you know it's it's it's not a it's not the focal point of their stuff they use it as a catalyst for their efforts so you know she has those two substances and she has some some pretty reputable people that she gets some from i'm not worried about the psilocybin you know that i can do that but the mdma i had to vet her in the process because you're right i mean i could be she could be giving me a bunch of strychnine and other bullshit that could fuck me up but
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i did my due diligence and i did my research and she was definitely on the up and up look your boy likes to party i'll have i'll have three four zema some nights but you know i just have to my jolly rancher yeah take that take the bite off but molly more than anything has this weird like i don't know this weird vibe around it ever since i've heard about it about its it has that it's chinese drywall
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presses into a pillar they're doing they're doing clinical trials with that
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psilocybin maps.org got to sarasota with rick doblin they they're kind of the the leaders in the effort for mdma assisted therapy for ptsd so for me it's not ptsd it's just more of like you know having some being exposed to some nasty shit as as a young man and as a young jew prior to my bar mitzvah i was already way beyond being a man as far as exposure to porn is concerned oh yeah oh yeah pre bar pre bar really download dude all day my dad used to subscribe to some filthy shit so i respect his willingness to think outside the box but i kind of created my own box you didn't he didn't he didn't find it in the woods or the swamp like almost every kid our age oh i did that too okay i got a taste yeah again never done anything career father son weekend go find the porn sun did you ever find no i never found it in the woods but i mean there's always sell like i'd say like half the guys i know that are bad or age they all have that same story of like yeah there's some homeless guy in the woods there's like some kind of foreign leprechaun that goes around is leaving it for the kids are homeless it's not meeting warranties or have a place to put it right out of my house he didn't go to work
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i mean different people need different settings for masturbation so some people like wouldn't enter in back in the day we're all analog we're all you know all the magazines and whatnot for shows and i my dad had a huge stash of penthouse which he very strategically and
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parentally located in the
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bathroom. So I would base that shit my dad's bathroom for four or five hours and just go through this penthouse. Yeah. And then he found out I was doing that he moved him out of his bathroom into like a chest in the same room. So it took me like 35 seconds to find the chest. And I was spending five hours near the chest. Make it smell him. Yeah, well, yeah, my porn sniffing dog.
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That's not what you're sniffing?
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kind of smells like bleach around here. Yeah. So back to so yes, MDMA assisted therapy. It's, it's her basically sitting there kind of babysitting me with a strategic playlist to kind of follow the waves and, you know, highs and lows of the experience. So you basically create a really comfortable setting, I was laying on my back with pillows and stuff. She was there monitoring and the music and the medicine just kind of took hold. And I noticed it was much more of a physical experience. Like there were some things that came to me some people that I really cared about, that I hadn't spoken to in a while. And some things about my relationship with my wife that popped up, because that's where I was trying to steer it initially. But physically, it was where I feel like I got the most benefit, like afterwards, my shoulder and other things that were really tense and painful going in just feel felt a lot more at ease. And there was just some sort of connection there with some of the psychology that came into play. I can't necessarily, I can't articulate it, but it was there. There was a connection between the two. Oh, that's really interesting. Yeah. I mean, that's one of those things hard to hard to prove. Yeah, you store tension in your shoulder, whatever. But like, everybody agrees, you know, it's like, oh, that that helped that out. I feel looser. I feel I mean, your brain can absolutely just cause you to tense up all the time. Resting bitchface You don't have to have that. But I do. Because apparently, I'm the resting bitch. You know, like, it's just there. Well, how about this, the happiest people like happy successful people, you know, they don't really ever complain about any, any back pain or like any of that shit, right? So there's got to be a tie, I look, maybe I'm a bit broad. I can play it. Like in my, in my, in my, in my kind of lifetime. This is the, like successful positive people I know. They don't really go around, you know, going, Oh, like, they don't have that natural pitch. Like I do everything. But I'm saying like, they're not they're not the old older guys that are complaining about their back they may have it but well, cuz you know, well, also that place. It also plays into the fact that once you kind of get to a happy place, once you get to a place where you really understand your your mind and body more.
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You don't want to play the victim, you know, whenever you complain about playing the victim. So, you know, that does nobody any good. I love what he wants to hear it do when I was younger, I thrived on soliciting sympathy, like that was my go to move. I was so fucking good at like, I could solicit sympathy from anybody anywhere, anytime for as long as I wanted. So I know how that works. But once you realize that the victim role is retarded. Sorry, to use that terminology. There's no reason for you right in that room? Yeah, no, it's going backwards. It's regressing. Work works. Uncharted is an actual word. Yeah, I'll be I'll be your social attorney on that. Yeah, needed valid is what was one of those things where I there is got to be a connection. I mean, we talked about placebo effect a lot. Eric and I and how it can affect Yeah, yeah, if it works for you, it works for you. I don't think most chiropractors are worth the shit but I have one that I go to once a month and he does his little adjustments which are good. There's legit ones there's not doctors so you know. So I'm saying like
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the thing that kind of all in or a you know, on the chiropractor's I mean, how's that works for me? No one really cared about doing it and like, really do give a shit about the patients. Yeah, a lot of them just want to hammer Oh, and for you. That's the mechanism of this is working.
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Some are just leveraging insurance. Mine is good. I go once a lot of dirty. I call him doctor but we can move on. Yeah, yeah. They partner up with a personal injury attorney. Boom. One hand washes the other for sure. So wait for the MDMA therapy is it is the person in the room with you? Are they doing anything but reacting to you and your what you're going through or they have any sort of agenda that they're doing anything? So yeah, they're they're there to establish the setting right? So when we talk about the psychedelic setting setting are the two Paramount facets, right, your mindset and your setting. So she can control my mindset. That's all me I have to make sure that everything's clear and I have a direction and intention, all that stuff going in, but she is responsible for the setting. So physically, every sense all that is
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all those are portions of the setting and so she's essentially playing conductor for that simple symphony of of elements so while i'm there the mindset and the drug are going to work together and as long as the setting is uncompromising or threatening then everything can can go to work if the setting creates a problem then everything gets screwed up yeah that's your job i yeah i'm a big advocate of that yeah oh it's the most most important you're really trying to work on yourself you know you can't can't be at a you know a concert like
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therapy is gonna happen for sure right i mean not deep anything it's like oh that i needed that fun night but realistically that goes away differences between that and like psilocybin so molly has a lot of light the next day you don't have like a lot of serotonin or dopamine or something like that so you're kind of just yeah there's a lot of opposites temperature so yeah i'm glad you asked that so mdma well
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i'm very humble so the yeah the mdma the way that my my therapist describes it it's more of a benevolent crock right so psilocybin is going to kind of dig down deep and rip shit out and you have to deal with it you're kind of stuck there mdma is going to kind of tiptoe around it gently approach it not slap you in the face not really scare the shit out of you but maybe gently massage certain things in a certain direction and the physical element is very profound right so you know tingling and just kind of like a symbiotic relationship between your mind and body during the experience but with psilocybin i mean you're going to deal with whatever comes up right so if you have a mindset that is if you have a good mindset if you're safe if you have a good setting then your mind goes to work right and now it starts digging up things and it feels comfortable to actually dig deep and explore the depths of your mind but if those the set and setting are right psilocybin can just be like a great way also to experience the botanical gardens or camping or something like that but if the set and setting are perfect and you really kind of settle in to that to that sort of combination that's when the medicine goes to work and that's when i have my most profound experiences for sure yeah i don't know if i answered the question but hope i don't remember the question what is difference between the two experience yeah yeah i just hear like
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was still sigh but i don't hear much the next day of people like they actually feel a lot better oh yeah so i made so there's five htp by btp is used to replenish some of the serotonin after the mdma experience but you don't need that after the psilocybin quite as much so you sell a syllable simon produces serotonin and repairs those receptors i think well it's the drain like you know you feel completely drained the next day if you do a heavy dose of psilocybin or the heavy dose of mdma it feels like your mind and body had just been expended like you've been exhausted of your resources so it's the serotonin level being exhausted you're just using a lot of it and your body is needs to replenish that which will happen over time but the five htp kind of accelerates that and especially for mdma gives it back to you right away
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so you take that supplementally after the experience really okay it could you take five htp like boozing or doing
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going ski going skiing it's used for sleep
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help really yeah yeah i mean if your dopamine going off the charts you know and you feel like you're depleted i don't see why it wouldn't be a bad idea i just know for mdma that it really drains you you know it's very heavy so to just be without for several days it's easier to throw some five htp in there and kind of replenish some of that yeah my my friends that do it regularly they build compared to like doing a live blow one night or something and feel like drained the next day emotionally almost yeah you have that high right you know i feel great i feel like then yeah the body around the body equalizes yeah
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it's the amphetamines too but i mean anytime you're really going to drain anytime you have an amazing experience you're kind of drained afterwards right like if you have an awesome climax you know during sex i hate saying the word climax if you come during sex afterwards you're drained of is better yeah it has been almost grosser but it was better than climate climax was disgusting if you're 1/3 of a boo cocky i mean you will essentially be drained of your serotonin oh man i wish i could do that
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i can't be around anybody else yeah so i've probably alienated some listeners with my my expression of vulgar porn but that's who i am man that's that's what they are
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Let's share this. Well, my wasn't cocky. They're like, yeah, finally, my real business talk. Yeah, yeah, we'll we'll find out who my real listeners are after this one for sure.
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This exists because real conversations don't really happen. So, you know, the reason podcasts are interesting is because we're not really having, even if it's blue discourse,
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you know, or crass discourse or whatever. Yeah. You know that it exists somewhere where a lot of people don't have it normally. Real into your regretted a little bit.
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Dude, yeah, I've become so like, okay with telling people, whatever, man, I really don't care anymore. It's I've dissolved my ego to the point where I couldn't care less. It's allowed me to do jujitsu like I did jujitsu A while back and my ego got in the way, man, I'd be getting tapped out by a little kids and people that weighed half my size. And it just my ego wouldn't allow me to continue with that. But I have no ego anymore. So I can just do all this stuff and not have my feelings hurt if it doesn't pan out. I don't really care. Yeah, that that'll, though.
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I hear BJJ as we call it out there. Yes. blowjob jitsu, as Eric referred to, which I'll have you know, jubilees when I called it, I haven't learned that move it just so you know, I haven't gotten to that. Well, that's what like any rollerskates any athletic endeavor is it's gonna, it's gonna bring it down a notch. And it's like, I hate jogging. I'll go for a jog. And I know, I know, I know, I should do it more regularly, because it's not a runner's high. It's just that thing. You just go. This is so painful to sucks. But I know, it's good to do something for 10 minutes a day, whatever that physical activity is. That hurts. Yeah, you know? Yeah. Well, plus, I mean, for me, I'm 43. I'm gonna be 44 this year. And so starting a new, a whole new sport with limited skills. I mean, it's tough, right? So I mean, my age and my body and all that stuff gets in the way. But just not having the ego allows me to push through the last one, however long you've been in Denver, since 2017. So a lot of stuff since you've moved out there. You're like, I'm starting a whole new life. Fuck all these Florida, guys. I'm gonna get into cell seibon. Brazilian jujitsu. It's cool that you're finding these things? At the age where most people would be like, fuck it. Yeah. I'm locked in. Now. It's contagious. It's like I remind myself that if my hands and feet weren't so sweaty, I might try jujitsu. But I feel like it would just be so gross. Yeah, I mean, the sweat factor. You start sweating. Five seconds into being on the mat anyway, so your sweaty issue is a non issue they move on to the next excuse socks, they'd be like no, it'd be like by about Yeah, you'd have to put immediately in yoga they they get mad because I have to wear like I wear those like
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in this new balance shoes that are really thin, but I'm like you don't want me to not if I'm just in socks I'll fucking slip around. That's how gross I am. You know what you've got to come up with it. There's there's yoga towels that you can put over your mat to mitigate some of the extra sweat.
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I love to talk barefoot. I'll flip
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right here see me in flip flops every year some awful excuses I have to admit these are terrible excuses net is a bad it's got to any yoga instructor and they are shutting these down with rebuttal after rebuttal after objective rebuttal what lands too sweaty Why?
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Alright, so, so yeah.
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We're talking about I don't give a shit. I think I'm so open man. Like if I did went back and did stand up, I would have a much easier time now. Like, it has dissipated I've been I've come to a really good place. That's why I can't stop talking shit about mushrooms. It's changed my life. Well, I think I think it's cool. You're getting this this podcast going in the same way cuz I think it's tough to not do stand up after doing it and loving it. And but at the same time, it's like it's a slog in it when you're having a kid. Like you're about to Yeah, that's it gets a lot tougher to just because you get this guilt about not getting up not getting up. But at least you have this creative Avenue like this to to get it out. You know, Yeah, dude, before I stopped doing stand up, like before I moved out out to Denver. I hated myself so much. And I couldn't listen to anything coming out of my mouth. Without physically getting nauseous. It was more excruciating to do stand up than to not so I was like, Fuck this. This is just painful. So I stopped.
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That's good self awareness. I mean, for I mean, not going to torture myself. Yeah, exactly. In your head so much that you've got to get up. You got to get up everyday, everyday everyday. It becomes like Stockholm Syndrome. Yeah, you have to do
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it which is fine because it it's good because there's no real like no one's really gonna pull you up and stand up no it's all you know you want a one man show so it's kind of good that there is that kind of toughness about it where everybody kind of does like one of the few things all comedians agree on like you have to get up you have to do reps and you're kind of the same way not yet but at the same time you know it's i'm just saying mazel tov to you we're behind that hello himes cheers to life mazel tov hi um that you're you're you're you know you're getting this podcast out that's a creative thing you're doing brazilian jujitsu later in life which a lot of people wouldn't do because the ego yeah then you know you're really looking in this like i call it alternative therapy for lack of a better term but you're really kind of doing this in a very measured calculated way not just going over to go do i was gonna say oh it goes like you're really every time i talk to you like really researching everything before you did well it's my agreement with my wife you know like unfortunately shrooms they have a the connotation that it's drugs and it's only for enjoyment so my agreement with her is i have to treat this stuff therapeutically i can't treat it frivolously i can't you know me going to meow wolf is a special case like this stuff is for me to use therapeutically so that's my agreement with her she can't do shit right now that she's pregnant so if i'm going to do this stuff and like have any kind of fun it needs to boil down and resolve to something that's that's positive so that's that's my agreement with her and that's that's why i can do this stuff and not have her be like your fucking druggie psyching out weirdo and she's cool as fuck because you know what pregnant women hate it when their husbands fucking do anything wasted anyway or having any joy really what do you guys have two kids just to my lessons no you're not 40 pounds overweight to fuck you buddy right fuck you gonna take the weekend off fuck that should be my uber eats driver
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yeah so both you guys are divorced is
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getting there yeah i've got i got about two months till the trial baby but that's any any anybody having a kid like every every wife hates him if they're most of them can
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get that joke
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dude yeah i can't say how it's gonna be after a kid but all i can tell you man is i have definitely got to the point where i'm ready like i'm you know i'm in my 40s now and i'm like i'm ready but if it were 15 years ago no way absolutely no way he's one of the 30 bucks fans that's a real bucs fan buccaneers fans tampa you're probably living off the high of the super bowl when not me she's it's all her my brownies sunday will smell the bowl right now yeah i mean you guys are not understand you are sharing the same psyche that's something you can i'm happy for her understand though i'm happy for her but i'm my god are you dumb i'm trying to tell you how to do this man browns fan ended up like us i'm a proud gay do you say that they don't even say cleveland browns in your house don't be dumb that brings everybody down once i was a pregnant woman i'm telling you right right now is there like physically i can't see you right now and that's a good thing but dude as a browns fan this is you're digging deep man that hurts i will never about abandoned
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doing a sympathy yeah you
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know my heart is not gonna work on us fuck oh we're we're the were the worst city
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rounds are real turned on fire one time hey get off your fucking multiple championship high horse you fuckheads
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lebron left me and now all i have is the browns and sunday will smell the super bowl sunday not anytime soon
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well next year we did get better in the offseason i know i know we've got a bouncy that every like four minutes
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so i want to make sure any other any other questions you got or any other stuff you've got yeah man so you guys you took some silicided recently i told you how to get some allegedly yes and i'm just curious about your experience
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well in theory if it was if we were actually talking real talk if we were this was a real thing that happened okay all right we would have had a great time yeah just the two of us if hypothetically speaking okay yeah it would be a hypothetically super cute date yesterday night all right didn't take much in this scenario oh this hypothetical i don't know i there's five grams ascetically we did okay you did
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Okay, for not
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what I've gotten out of it in previous experiences like, while while ago, like years ago,
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not recently.
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But maybe, allegedly recently is, there's a real for me, there's a real like, optimism in a nostalgic kind of way for me, I don't know how to explain it. Okay.
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But like I can, it's,
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you're able to clear out the shit that you got, like, immediately going on in your mind. And when you say it's innocence or whatever.
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It feels Dalvik Okay, when I was younger, exactly. And you didn't have all that shit excited about stuff in the future a lot more. Right? Yeah. So funny. So like, the shit that you're dealing with right away. You can kind of take a step back, get childish mentally. And, you know, that's good for your brain is pretty straightforward. I think, you know, having a kid that gives me a cool chance to kind of get inside their mind a little bit, you know? Oh, dude, I have a theory. babies are born trippin man. Right? That's why
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they're so wide eyed. Yeah, you wait day and we're born tripping and then you sort of come out of it. Like it's the transition into the real world. Like when I had my kids, a baby a newborn baby sleeping on your chest will make you fall asleep. Like the same way if somebody can be completely sober and there's somebody in the room was tripping their balls off? Like, kind of feel like I'm tripping right now. It's the same idea. You ever had that? where it's like, God Damn, this whole room feels like everybody's on mushrooms, but really is one person who just ate too much. Yeah, there's like a like a Moses placebo kind of? Yes. I don't know about placebo. I think it's real fuck. But maybe you watch. You'll see exactly what I'm talking about. Didn't get that a look by behind you at like, whatever fucking ghosts they can see. or some shit.
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Can't Wait. Wait. Yeah, sure. I had that same baby.
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Goes cutter style. Yeah. My daughter also talks about the multiverse so I don't know. Oh, she's a Rick and Morty fan. I mean, she came up with that on her own actually. Oh, all right. So she's, she's gonna get us to Mars. Yeah, did you learn about multiverses?
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naked? Oh,
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yeah.
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Yeah, there is that it's a it's a weird energy. And that's kind of what is good about it doing stuff like that. And one part of my I analytically I know you can't do it that much. Because it won't have the effect. Right, right. Yeah. microdosing have to space it out. Much like everything. Well, I mean, like, you know, I like to booze it up every now and again, but I'll take breaks just because I don't want it to go away. I'd like I would like to do this in future right? Because you don't want to ruin Yeah. So you see a lot of that going on. So it's like moderation in terms of everything including moderation and all that stuff. But yeah, you know, doing it once every three months is is like a reset button taking taking that old school Nintendo cartridge out blowing on that thing. Put it right back in and now you're playing track and field done and that's the game you chose. What a dork. I wanted to Zig when you thought I was Ag and baby
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tech mobile but I mean that that's all that's all you I know. I know. I just want to go
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see your faces guys. It's good to see your bald head man. I am proud of you for taking that as you can see I haven't tended to my situation recently but you've done a really good job there. Oh yeah, I'm getting back into the hair growing game I got a laser helmet I like the fucking the looks like it works. Le night Okay, it's been like three times I've tried it I'll wear it through a podcast like
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25 minutes every other day. It's a crash test dummy hat with like a fucking helmet with like a little camera that goes right to their corporate office and they all laugh at me
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it's something that you should look at. It looks like a baby's skull is Miss shaped they have to wear those those helmets. Yeah, same idea. Was your guy cool led lines make it? It's lasers. Do your God Well, you and I have the same balding hair pattern where we have like kind of that stream down the middle. Oh, your brother from another mother Jude Law. Jude Law made it really fashionable.
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But I'll tell you what, man. Now that you've crossed over there, there is no going back. So your hair growing all he's gonna Ilan Muskett.
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I'll be disappointed in you if you do, by the way, because I want you for a minute but it'll be you in my column.
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My friend, I don't want you to leave. I'm there. Alright, stay there. Okay, no way you want him to you want him to figure it out and then you'll he'll tell you what to do. Yeah. I've already figured out my friend. I've been alone. I've tried. I've tried and tried. And I've progressed and progressed and progressed. Every hair growth method has been a horrible failure. So good luck, Godspeed. Pay Pal. And look at him now. And that's all I'll tell you. Yeah, I mean, he's got a slight financial advantage over me, I'm sure.
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Yeah, you know, for the time all I can't, he also is making Tesla's approachable for almost everybody to buy. So if he can do it, I bet I hope he'll he'll let it down to this pianist at some point, like a Deion Sanders. Yeah, he didn't know about that.
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Oh, hey, I wanted to mention real quick. I'm Carmen ralis. is supposedly a big micro dosing, macro dosing. She's Oscar. Yeah. Pedro hooked me up with her. I'm going to link up and try to get her on the podcast as well. She's been on sweat equity she has.
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Dude, do you understand Pedro?
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Is our we've called it theories timed in theory is who we call love. We don't talk to ever right. And it's like, oh, we're calling Pedro. Now. When we sent Pedro
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he said he wouldn't pick up because a bunch of bunch of Puerto Rican sees with wouldn't get white two white guys are giggly calling. I was like, that's fair.
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I was like, don't stop calling. I love it. Man. That has become our only like, superstition. That is awesome.
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Are we are we at our time limit? Yeah, Eric's gonna run on a call and we got another podcast after this. Well, hopefully it's as entertaining as informative as this one. I doubt it. Yeah.
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Well, guys, it's great to see you. Yeah, man. This your buddy. We're gonna come out and visit you. You better the basement is being done as we speak. So you'll have a space. I think it's like we'll get a single so you guys have a place to snuggle up in the air b&b. Okay.
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Baby then so Oh, yeah, the baby. Yeah, I forgot about the baby. Oh, yeah, baby. Yeah, once you have that baby, there's no
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oh, god dammit. You did it.
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Always on the reading?
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As much as my wife doesn't have it.
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With her man. All right. Well, on that note,
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you're trying to get a lead. On that note. I love you guys. Let's do this again.
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To buddy. All right.
