#298: How To Positively Speak Highly of Others w/ Jon Huck
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podcast in the world I'm so excited because we got john hoch of the speaking highly podcast and my good buddy is a stand up comedian. You can see him on. This is not happening on Comedy Central cc.com or YouTube if you've seen those. This Is Not Happening stories. He's really funny about going Oktoberfest. Number one business comedy podcasts in the world pragmatic entrepreneurial advice with real broad talk.
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Your host locksmiths in my right your left is Eric Readinger. Some people call me cool Eric, go through it. We're 2020s best small medium enterprise business advisor podcast in United States from Lux global excellence awards provided by lunch Life magazine. Boom. That's how we doing. You can listen to us on Apple podcast, iTunes, Spotify. This episode 298
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It's not for it's just collecting data over time. Slowly knowing what you like, year by year because nothing's free data. Ain't no free lunches in business. Am I right? Am I right? Let's get started.
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my sweater Woody.
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Woody.
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Woody.
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I haven't know.
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We've done 300 almost 300 Yeah, that's a lot. Dude. That's fantastic, man. Congratulations. Yeah, man. It's, uh, it's the only consistent thing in my life. The last five. I know, dude. I've never gotten a podcast over 198 episodes or something like that? Well, to be fair, that's pretty good. Man. Ours is pretty cheap code, because ours are 33 minutes. Yeah, but that's doesn't I don't think it's about that. It's not about the time necessarily as much as it is about the dedication of getting one out every week of getting the guests of continuing that. And like Eric also being into it. That's what I always ran into. I was like, it would be like, yeah, yeah, just as the thing is picking up steam and like, we're doing it and then the person I was doing with is like, I don't want to do it anymore. I'm like, okay, and you can't. I mean, I completely understand that people have lives they don't want to be involved in, in a weird way. So I was doing it before Eric, but Eric came in and made it a lot better. And then we found, we both we both kind of cathartically needed this.
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I mean, especially when you couldn't get on stage to do stand up.
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Just the connection you can sort of get from something like this. Yeah. And like I may now never reach out to you. Otherwise, you know, we might just follow each other online and see Oh, cool. You know, you're going to mention the first white woman goalie because I'm waiting for to come check it out.
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Awesome. Well, look, you got people like Sarah, I think her name is Sarah nurse. She's I don't know that, that she's necessarily retired but I think I mean, I don't know that she's aiming to play in the NHL, but I feel like she's a player that could make it in the NHL if she if she worked, but I could be wrong. I could be wrong. What you mean the player you posted about on your? No, that was that was 1992 or whatever? What was her name? Her name? Her name was? I'm not going to do it any justice. It's very Yes. It's it's like
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I want to say it's French. Yeah, I think it's French Canadian because it's like read
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or used to listen to that. Again. I'm not trying to like butcher it. I just don't know how to say it.
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Well, yeah, and you checked in at a very, for anybody rolling. So anybody listening if you go on john Hawkes Instagram, he posted a few days before recording this that, you know, I don't know if you meant to because you're coming on this show probably not but I did it was it was the fact that she played for the lightning. I was just searching to see if any woman had ever played in the NHL. And she's the one who popped up and yeah, that would have been the first year the lightning was in play in Tropicana where the rays played now. No, they played in the fairgrounds. Their first year, they went to a game. Wow, I went to a game of Fairgrounds 93 they played in the Tropicana. No, they moved on, they moved over a baseball field. But their first they played it First of all, they played in the Tropicana that is a cavernous. Yeah. I mean, I tell a hockey team in there would be so weird. I think personally read the extra 2% there's actually some cool Chicago stuff in there. It's one of the best business books I like to throw out. It's about how the raise you applied Moneyball to part of the game but also managerial experience matters too. And it's it's awesome business book, or just metaphor for business, if you want to kind of think about it in that direction. And if you're like us where you need this kind of through line of baseball to kind of keep you entertained for a business book. Johnny Carey did a great job with it, but he does a great job. I didn't know this and I grew up here. Instead of Eric, that Tropicana was built for they had a team, so every team use it as leverage to get a new stadium. Chicago White Sox had an interesting one in 89 where they were supposed to like pass something. I know you're a Cubs fan, but
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an 89 they're supposed to do some bill or like if the clock strikes midnight, and we don't all agree on x y and z to get a new stadium Kaminsky I guess what that became or Comerica Park or whatever it is now Yeah. cummiskey was there the original Park and then if you had Erica or something like that, yes, it is US Cellular. Yeah. Wow. So
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like I'm big into naming rights to stay at a weird new that I have a weird Asperger's he Brian for like a lot of this. That's the kind of stuff you just hear. And then it sinks to me like I think that's where they play. No, because you know, well, plus, you know, the big hurt play for the for the White Sox. So it's kind of before we have a team heroes kind of White Sox guy. I love the big hurt. Hey, is he an Auburn guy? We're Eagle that. There we go. We have Bo Jackson, Charles Barkley, Frank Thomas all in the same era. All we're number 34 That's why I support Wow, four and everything. Yep. We're in a bigger reaction to it. I have a job. I pass my my sperm test at Oh.
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What did you get? Hey, nothing easy minus you want to go to zero? You want to zero? Yeah. I High Five the nurse. She thought it was weird. But I was like,
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was that just to make sure your boys can swim once No, cannot swim? I'm crying. I got I'm Cha. I don't eat anymore. I I'm going out. I'm going out like well, Sean McCoy to Super Bowl wins in a row. Oh, okay.
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And I don't need any more kids. I'm good man. Put me in the dead Hall of Fame. I guess even on the team to even he was on the cheese. Oh, I'm talking about the buck. He was. I know. But what did he actually like suit up for the Super Bowl.
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Nobody knows we get we had a towel boy get right in the bag.
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But so they talked about Chicago. And this is a Chicago politics story. That's what you hear about. It made me interested maybe go do a deep dive on some of the Windy City politics stuff but like so that the time elapses, they're going to lose the White Sox to Tampa, they're going to Tampa to have this new stadium and 89 or 90 or something like that. And then a guy physically gets up on this big clock, like a politician in a suit physically climbs up to this clock winds it back an hour.
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And they redo everybody votes again. Fucking White Sox day there.
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I honestly didn't know that there was a chance that they were.
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I didn't think they were trying to leave. I just thought they wanted a new stadium leverage, right? Yeah, it's all it's all. But the I didn't know the Giants did it too. They said the giants in San Francisco. They're on the tarmac, getting ready to go into their private jet to fly to Tampa. And like the mayor of San Francisco and a bunch of other people are like, No, no, no, no, like very romantic stories about Yeah, chasing the plane.
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In a business sense, and
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municipal sense how dumb cepii are Pinellas County was or the Tampa Bay area for putting a stadium before they had a team. That's pretty that's pretty weak because you're using a lot of taxpayer dollars to do that.
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It's one of the few instances where it's happened. They said, and the reason that it doesn't happen before you have to get the stadium done before you have the team and stuff is because of this. They're still dealing with that stupid thing to like, it should be, you know, in Hillsborough County, we're still dealing with Tampa police issues and stuff like that, where it's like, oh my god, how much longer is that? Isn't it next year? I think the lease is up and who cares? Yeah, it it's neither here nor there. But to put a bow into this you were you're promoting on your Instagram some interesting stories. I noticed sports sports wise, right. Yeah, I mean, I try to do I try to keep my Instagram.
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Like one column, I'm trying to do this, like one column is just for my podcast. one column is just for random, personal stuff that I post, like goofy shit. And then one is for history or related to if like, if we're going through like Women's History Month, so I'm going to put up you know, stuff that interests me that is like involved in that. So it'll be kind of like a historic, sort of sports, historic and mostly sports because that's, I find when I go back in history, I'm always curious as to who won the World Series that year or who you know, and I always coming back to Oh, that year was this and this happened around sports somehow and then whatever else. Can I nominate someone who's near and dear to Eric's kind of neighborhood? Is babes a Harris?
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Harris. Yeah, golfer female. Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah, look her up is pretty one of the best athletes of all time as a woman there's I don't know what else she played. When did she when does she play?
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Oh, wow. Cool. I like see the to me.
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It's nice when you because a lot of times you go in like who was the first woman to do this? Or who was the first black person to do this? And then you type it in and then the answer you get is like, somebody from like, last week and you're like, Dude, it's too short. This long for like, it's just it gets to be you just feel like it's insane. But her name was what I'm going to write it like the pig baby. Okay, or like the baseball player. Look like the pig pig. The pig shaped like the plague.
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Like she's not a pig. She's She's an athlete, and then
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athletes have ever been pigs before. You've never seen curling by
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Charles Barkley. Wait, oh, round mountain rebound. Yeah. name was the round was who 664 but rebounded better than people that are like 689 That's why I like him. legit Chairman any Look, he's he's the closest thing to a comedian. And I do love Charles Barkley. I'm not gonna I don't think you I don't know too much about basketball. But I've never not. I mean, when when the suns in the balls, I guess I was like, you know, Charles Barkley is annoying, but like now I'm like, I like him. I just think he's he says what he wants to say. And it's never anything that's like so insanely offensive or crazy, where you're like, Oh, you have weird ideas. He's just like, out there doing his thing. I like anybody who doesn't look like they're supposed to look, Charles Barkley even like that's George Gervin. It's all Kevin Durant, that sort of shit. Like, you know, Bartolo Cologne, like as a professional athlete, dude, when he hit that home run, like two or three seasons ago and they clock him running to miss to get around the bases or whatever.
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That I live for that guy. Yeah, me pitchers hitting dingers is like,
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I live for fat pitchers just fielding the ball to see him like doing ain't around. It's just like you're an athlete. Holy shit. That's the thing, dude. That's what, that's why I think baseball is greatest because you can still even today you can still have those guys with a little bit of it's not as bad or as prom.
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prevalent but like, you can't do that in football. Unless you're a lineman, I guess, hockey you got to be in shape, man. You can't be like, yeah, like cigars and chicken wings. Like do we feel like a spurned ex girlfriend that you have Joe Maddon
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as your sophomore? I know, but I mean, you had you had them to get you there, you know? Yeah. Oh, dude, you got them in the good times. You know, back when it was you went through a midlife crisis. You know? I mean, you got them in the good husband years restaurant. I love taking you out all the time. He never took us out. Dude, I love him. Like I still like I'll watch angels games just to catch a glimpse of him in the dugout be like, hey, all right, buddy. Like, I love that guy. Dude. He's one of the few guys I've met in person that I completely fanboy out. And I was like, huh, yeah, extra 2% read that book, man. It's cool, huh? My dad? My dad claims to have played baseball against him at some point. I don't know, I guess. Oh, open the same area. In PA baby. Yeah, my dad was he was drafted by the reds. But Oh, nice football and blew his knee out. Yeah, we're both failures of her dad's. Yeah. I mean, his dad played pro football for Christ's sake. Yeah. What's your dad play for people?
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For the LA Rams for five years and then the Washington Redskins for a year he was oh shoot I didn't know that man that's cool. Yeah look if you look up Larry Smith or you look at the 1969 playboy all American team it's a picture of him and oj and a bunch of other guys. Wow I like to say oj is your BFF and he never laughed at that joke but dude, it could have been it could have been your dad and that white Bronco and you know this is last Miss dad. Yeah, it would have been he would have been AC in that situation that's what I mean. Oh yeah. Cuz AC called you know who this is this they see I got Oh, Jay did live in Brentwood at one point in time so could your dad that night while I was with him that day cuz I was at a game because he played for the Florida Gators. They do a reunion every year. He played like with Spurrier when he was his quarterback. When he won the Heisman and stuff and they do a reunion every year in Crystal River, are all the manatees are out here called silver 60. Saw the 60s football players. They meet up once a year. They tell the same stories over and over share, man. Yeah, bears love each other on the back. Yeah. And I remember no, it's awesome. It's awesome to hear the stories because like it took them. I told you the story. And I bring it out when I get drunk watching the games just to annoy our other friend. But it took till like five years ago, my dad telling the story where he beat Tommy Smith, the sprinter Olympic sprinter, and a foot race in like the 90s 1969 like spring training for the football. Next summer isn't Yeah, they've done they're starting to bring in outside athletes at that time. That was like oh, yeah, they put Smith against Smith. George Allen did it did for male his special teams coach who we had a boo hoo, he had. Yeah, he cried a lot. Who He had Thanksgiving with because you'd have rookies of Thanksgiving. Let's go and he had an offseason job which is the other part. So he went to Tiger land boot camp for one one an offseason. I think he went to school for another had another job in the offseason back in the day. Wow. Yeah. If you get Oh, you're getting this makeup of this frantic always doing stuff thing I have. My display is good. My dad now just gotta keep gotta keep doing this good as Mike at now. No, no, I'll never be dude. He's the most like my No. He's like the most badass dude of all time. Nice to hear those two. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, he put them on stage. He's like, well heeled like puke.
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Roy, I'm on stage. Yeah, I'll fucking heckled shit.
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But here's, here's something gratitude your way. Because I'm always I'm always thankful when you wanted to record your CD or your album about 10 years ago, you asked me to open for you. And that was always one of those nice things in comedy, because he's Mark Franco at least told me this. I don't know if it was real or not. I'm gonna say it was real that you specifically asked for me to open. Now looking back, it might be you might want someone that not like, will you miss is available? Not due to well.
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That's never been my. No, I'm kidding. I don't think you're Yeah, that's never been lately, when I headline and I have a feature if people were like, Oh, do you like your feature to not be good? I'm like, not particularly I like the audience to have a good time. And if, and if I have to work, if I feel I have to work harder than that is tugging on me. You know what I mean? That's my problem now. And that meant a lot to me when I was probably 2526. And I was, I was still much younger than a lot of people around. I mean, you're not that much older. I mean, I'm 36 How old are you? I'm fucking 46 I'm 10 years older than you do. I that's I always felt really young compared to everybody around but then I you know, you talk to like Santina or somebody and him and I are the same age or, you know, these guys that were knocking around, they just felt older to me. So I always felt like a young cat around all y'all. And so it was it was cool when you're like, let him open for me for the album. Because that's like, you want to be a good leadoff hitter too. When you're young in the game, if you can just well you're also on the album now. You know what I mean? Like I don't you do the intro? The intro is you bring me up. So it's like fuck yeah, you're like Ladies and gentlemen, john Huck. So it's you, you know, which isn't why I chose you. I think at the time, I had done several shows with you. We were having a good week. We I enjoyed it. Yeah, I didn't want anybody who I had to like, you know, fucking deal with necessarily. It's like, Please do your time. Then bring up Brian. Then bring up you know what I mean? It was like Krishna. Justin Timberlake bit.
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I don't remember that bit. But I like harloff. No, I love him too. That's what I'm trying to bring up. What's the most energetic bit that was done in room? Oh, I mean, have you ever seen, I think the most some of the most,
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most intense energy I've seen on stage besides like Brody Stephens and his like,
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You know what I mean? Like real kind of like talk about Asperger's baseball in it Jesus. Oh, nice dude. I saw him in oh four at the Melrose improv before when I was in college just thinking about moving to LA visiting Brendan t Gleason out there. And Brody comes on stage is like, Where are you from? Any people would be like all over the place. And if you go, yep. Chris Archer came out of there. Where are you from? I think he called our tables like Tampa Jesuit. He's like Lou Piniella rich McKay like he could list every famous. Yeah, it was I'm saying it's weird cuz we were just talking about him. Yeah, well, yeah. We're talking about about two hours ago. But yeah, yeah. Energy is tough to fall into. Yeah, absolutely. I think
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if you ever want to hear like a really good Brody talk, he we did a podcast with him about the Cubs winning the World Series because he was at all seven games and he only had a ticket to one
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and he like ended up just walking in, you know, and he like, he always had he had this beard. He's like I went to great I went to I went to preschool with Kevin malarkey. He had frosted tips like it was just that kind of thing. Like he saw a lot waved at him goes down on the field for game six no press credentials, just walking around. And like, Dude was something else. Yeah, it's a wild and I got to open forum once just randomly here in Tampa, when Tripoli. I was working with Tripoli for a weekend in Florida and redband in Florida. And like, my ball was here. And so we were trying to get someone to come come in from odd ball just come down. He came down. It was like, Oh my god, I haven't seen this guy like 10 years. He just fucking rip in this. Yes, positive energy. Let's do a toy that no one knows what no one knows. That's the area code of Hollywood. Just it's one of those things like the back of the room is dying. Especially when the front of the room isn't getting it. You know what I mean? Like somehow that made me laugh even harder. When people were like, what is happening? Why is he kicking? Why is he making high kicks? Like, what is it playing drums on a chair like people were just their minds were like, what is going?
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I loved it. I was listening to speaking highly now on iTunes, Apple podcasts. Nice blog. We've that in there on Spotify and all that to Pandora with our old friend Amy. Or my old friend. I haven't talked to you in a while Amy dresner who I'm going to reach out to me because I Her story is so interesting. I know. She wrote. I forgot she wrote the book. I want to go buy it. Now that book is great, dude. It's really, it's really it's, I mean, at times. It's heartbreaking. But it's a good good book like she does. She puts it all out there, man. She did that to help other people. And it worked. Yeah, and I definitely want to read it and then ask you to come on. I'm gonna piggyback your guests. I'm just gonna go through. Come on. Can you give me his info? I can give you everybody's info. There everyone on because cool now, we'll just piggyback because we're on booking too. But what's Yeah, I mean, I book I have to call these people You don't? I mean, I call him direct and like, Yeah, Yeah, I know. I know. But sometimes I, I guess I would put you in that category. You could have someone booking for you. I don't know. I just I'll leave. I would rather like I want to reach out to like, here's what I like about the podcast I'm doing now like it's a it's a positive podcast is basically about anything I like that I think is cool, or neat, or inspiring, or entertaining. And when you hit people up and you say that's what my show is about. And I want you as a guest because I think you're those things. Most people aren't like, how dare you call me inspiring. entertaining. I fuck you and your podcast. It's like never like that. It's most people get back and be like, oh, wow, what? Yeah, that Thank you. That's great. I would love to do that. Yeah. And we Garrett though I've known Garrett for a while. He didn't even know what the podcast was. He agreed to do it. He didn't know he thought y'all were just talking. Dude. He goes, What's this show called? I go it's called speaking highly. And he goes, Oh, and he lights up a joint. I'm like, No, no, you don't have to. It's not about and he goes whatever. And I'm like, Okay.
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The first cast members SNL. I mean that right? Yeah, dude, he was. I mean, his stories that goes, Yeah, I remember. He used to be the guy that would be they. They put like a little circle. I'd be yelling. I forget the bit. He was news for the heart of hearing. Yeah. And he he was he was the last person cast. But he was in the first original not ready for primetime players cast. So Ah, yeah, yeah, he had a club out there right downtown LA. He I mean, let's that's throwing the word around loose. I don't know. Man. I've been to LA since Auburn Lhasa FSU in the national championship. So it's been a while. I don't know when that was but when was that? 2014, early 2014 for the 2013 season. But yeah, well, I mean, his he had a it was down there. It was like a roving we call it the Roman comedy club because one day it would be in this one restaurant and then the next week his show would be in a dilapidated like literally they were squatting in a burnt out coffee shop for a second. It was like always
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You were ahead of your time with. Yeah, right now, are you are you getting up on stage so that I mean, that's why it's good to reach out for our podcasts in the same kind of the same kind of approach. Because, like we talked about, we just want to be vessels of people who are smarter than us. So that was a good information. And, look, everybody's entrepreneurial in some direction or another. Sometimes you're in a corporate position, we talked about being an intrapreneur, where you're stuck in middle management, you got to be the best person within
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that could be easily a comedian working on a sitcom that they're the second banana on or something like that. But I love talking to comedians because we're very grimy in the sense that we'll find stuff that's the kind of latest technology or latest wave a lot of the time for self interest but for because your own career, which isn't a bad thing. It sounds like a being kind of pejorative, but I think you're always having to constantly,
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evolve, evolve and calibrate yourself. And when I was listening to you with that interview with Amy, you talked about
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rolling back from the booze in I knew as a booze party guy like I was but not to the point where it seemed detrimental. I could tell you weren't something that you know, you could party hard. You might go on a string of that you're gonna feel like shit probably. But it didn't feel like your boozy, alcoholic he boozy. I was listening to that you said you pulled back
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is that for a little bit your own self calibration to like focus on work? It was it was a it was a couple of different things. You know, I I had gone to a concert and I kind of blacked out and I was like, What am I 40 my 40 is like why do I I paid money for that show. And I don't remember it. I have to go look up the setlist online like it was just I was really I paid money for an ABA cover van. And I
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was just tickets tub Dancing Queen, this is bullshit. It was you know, and then have my I just my body just didn't. As you get older, you don't bounce. Like when my 20s and 30s I could drink all day and go to sleep and wake up and go to work. And now it's like I had to clear my schedule. If I had a hangover, you know, it was just not. It was just not fun anymore. It's like how I've quit everything. Like when I didn't want to smoke cigarettes anymore. I just go and I don't want this anymore. And I just quit like I don't. It's not Yeah, I've I'm not saying there's not there weren't times in the early on where I was like, man, I want to drink because I don't know what else to do. And this is what I would normally do. But once you fill that with, oh, I can do anything I want except drink and then it's everything is wide open. Like my comedy got better. Being on the road was more fun because I would go venture out into cities instead of being hung over in a hotel room all day like yeah, I mean doing comedy, I would go I would do the show. I get plastered. I go to bed and wake up and then sleep all day and then do that again. That sucks, you know? And it's boring. It's not fun, especially when you can go out get material walking around whatever shithole town you're in and and that's not to say I do ship I'm just saying you can go get material you can walk around you can enjoy yourself You don't have to like don't write City Council's listen to this like
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Omaha some awesome all Germans heard this.
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So where are you at with your career? How are you? How are you going forward with everything you started speaking highly your episode as we record this episode nine or eight or nine or something like that? Yeah, nine is coming out this week. Yeah. What I'm always curious how my comedian buddies are that I mean, that is your main bread and butter as far as income. Right? I mean, I don't know. At least comedy is for the most part, like I do. I was fortunate. I've gotten some writing gigs here and there. And then I've done I do a lot of producing like I used to produce palm things to produce so I go back and sort of get stepped back into that world and and do very well you know what I mean? But yeah, I was starting to make a lot of headway with the comedy It was like 2020 was going to be the year where I lined up. I lined up a lot of like headline dates, and I wasn't because I got very fortunate I hooked up with this guy Dan Cummins, who took me on the road Oh, and Dan, and you have the best pictures with him on Instagram where you're creeping behind them. Those are the funniest things to me started doing that on a whim because he was he gets a line of people and I was just kind of in the ER I'm standing there with him you know, I'm selling my CDs but I'm like I'm gonna fuck around here because it's funny. People would come running back in like oh my god you took the thing like they would get all the way home they would post a picture and people in the on the comments were like, Who's the psycho in the background? Like no one knew I
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just never smile always psychotically
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people started request Hey, can you
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do that to me. That's our picture. could you do that to us? He can I am doing that and you with me and like we people get real. I mean, and that's, I should say people, his fans are
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really solid human beings. You know what I mean? Like soccer I Oh, dude. Yeah, those people that show when I couldn't my daughter was the prime 2017. My daughter was a baby. She didn't sleep through the night. And I was like, I have to listen to her, she would sleep on my chest. Some, most of the nights
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are the only time she would go to sleep if she slept on me. And I was losing my mind like insomnia wise. And I found time suck through Burt's podcast when he was on there. And I just latched on to that. And then I became like, Oh, I'm a total dork for this show. But I love that show. I love the concept. Because a lot of comedians have the obsessive I'm going to be obsessed with this one thing for a week, and then pretty much not, not do much more, but it goes back to the history. I mean, yeah, I mean, that's, I think it's a man thing. But a lot of it's like, I love that just and like Dan has said he's gonna be going down those rabbit holes anyway. That's how he when there are certain people when they get on line, they're like, Hey, what about robot dogs, and then they're just like, boom, and then it's a whole three days of robot dog videos. You know what I mean? It's like, that's how Dan works. Anyway, when he gets interested in something, he goes, really into it. So the podcast made perfect sense for him. You know what I mean? It was like, and also I will say this, when you do something you love, it will succeed. Like he was he had failed podcast, he was new, he moved out to LA. And then he was like, I'm gonna do this thing the way I want to do this thing. And because that's how I like it. And then of course, fact he's got four podcasts going now he's basically building a podcast empire in Idaho. incorta Lane. Yeah, dude. Yeah, well, nice house where he's got his kid. I mean, you know, the dude's inspirational. I mean, we're at it it's not it's not the hotbed of of getting guests in you know, getting him in person when we get you know, more studio guests. But it is one of those things It is like the good the good the good will rise to the top if you keep pushing on it. I mean, we just a numbers game man. Just want to global excellence. Best small medium business enterprise podcasts, the United States. So did you really? Yeah. Yeah. But we don't know. What What is the Luxe life global excellence award? Good. Looks like
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they don't have anything for you guys to like, Oh, my God award award you can put up and go look, we want we're gonna order we're gonna make our own.
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It'll be like, I'll be behind you. It'll be sitting right here. It will be obnoxious. And you will see it. Yeah. I love it. Yeah, like I want best of Tampa, best management consultant two years in a row. And it's from a company that pretty much makes money off of selling trophies. Selling awards. That one was really funny. They give you an award.
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They
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they want you to buy this trophy for 250 bucks are my egos like, fuck it. Fuck, you know, all these people.
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Know the thing that looks like what they do is they give out the award and they say, Listen, you don't have to pay for anything. But if you want to, we will, you know, pimp you out hardcore. We'll put you in the magazine if you want to pay for it and all that stuff. We still won the award and payment dime, but we could have really parlayed it if we wanted to spend some money on it and like put it out there. It's the same thing as the trophy scam is.
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I don't understand like you won, give us money will put you in the magazine. Yeah, it's this. We're on their website. Okay. And like it's, it's up there to see. But yeah, no, you know, we could have paid to have it much more publicized. Here's why. Here's why it works. Because I think it's a bigger marketing department in that realm, because we've been in those worlds. And it's like, oh, well, I'm going to justify my career here at this job. Because we want a podcast here. So I'm going to I'm going to pay for us to get in their magazine, because they scratch my back, I'm going to kind of scratch theirs. And you know, we got to spend our ad spend money by the end of whatever the budget time is usually the end of the year. So they'll put it in there. And they'll throw it back out into the next year. it justifies your job their cmo or marketing director or something? Yeah, man. Yeah, I mean, what we get hit up, I get hit up. I don't know if you've hit up as much as I do. Just because I'm on LinkedIn or but
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I get hit up all the time to go on people's podcasts because they want to they want it's a lead generation thing for their business. Yeah, because you're in the marketing more in the marketing than I write but I'm saying like, but just LinkedIn wise, it's the only reason they're getting my info. And I just say yes to all of them because it's like, what is 20 minutes? I Little do they know you call them out right at the end. Like how's this lead gen thing going for you guys? Yeah, sweet. Comic me. Kay.
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Not say something cutting, right? And that's that's the thread we're trying to go down is maybe there is a route in this kind of business he there's not really business comedy podcast, we'd like to say we're the number one, because there isn't one. But I have to say that nobody knows
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how to stake in it. But I'm saying,
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research other business comedy podcast, but I'm saying I like I want results on Google, I like your approach with your podcast of positivity, because in a world full of negative kind of, kind of talking comedy, kind of perspective, let's put it under the comedy umbrella. Right? There's not a lot of things that are reaching out in that almost
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optimistic way in that positive way. Hey, I think this is great. I think Can you come on and talk about that, and, you know, we talked a lot about fake it till you make it is really, placebo effect can help, you know, or motivation is temporary, but it can help, you know, yeah, I mean, if you just if you'd like what you're doing, just keep going. And when you like, I found the idea that podcast just thinking about doing another podcast, it wasn't like something I'd been ruminating on. I was like, I only want to talk about what I like, and and what I like ranges from, you know, camping, to marine biology to Saturday live to my so called life to whatever I fucking want to talk about, you know, I mean, and being able to find guests along those lines, and we focus on I've never wanted to focus like on I think my first podcast, I probably did it when I I would I would drink while I would do it. So sometimes we would bash things like, Fuck that. That's stupid, you know? But like, I never really want to do that. Because I heard a saying from Dean del Rey, which is pretty much how I what I put, it's like, we say in my pocket, celebrate what's great. He said, promote what's great, but I took it to celebrate what's great, not what you hate, like, there's no reason. If there's a bunch of shit I don't like there's a lot of people I don't like there's a lot of things I don't like, why I talk about those things. I talk about those people when I could shine light on things I do like things I do give a shit about. And then my comedy has sort of evolved in that sense to like, it's not as negative anymore. It's still goofy. And I'm still at the bottom of most of the jokes, but it's got a little bit more of a of a message at the end. Yeah, you're reminding me of something I used to tell myself instead of a set doing a setup go I don't I hate this. I just I would always spin it until I love Even if I hated what I was talking about. I love when I see that Buick with all the stuffed animals in the back
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state and they're driving slow in the left lane. I got to get around cuz I really love to see their fucking
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terrible Oh, I love that for some reason, and, and almost faking or even if I'm in a bad mood before you go on stage. Even fake it a little bit of a smile just for me, for me work because I've resting bitchface like my daughter and potty training her. And she literally tells me dad's smile. And I'm like, that's what men are supposed to say to women on public.
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No, you should smile.
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I'm thinking about stuff. And she thinks I'm being a dick. And, and she just doesn't know like, she's that that is your what she could read your face and your face looks mean. Right? Oh, yeah. And so well, I Oh, I wish it looked like yeah, I don't. Yeah, it's, um, yeah, I'm the same way the furrowed brow. Yeah, there's sometimes if I'm dehydrated the vein in the forehead because I got the big noggin that's protruding out. We really kind of gab like gals. I have more questions for you. But we kind of keep these to around 30 for 35 minutes, we do want to ask you one question. We asked everybody that comes on. What advice would you give your 13 year old self? Because this podcast if it's anything, it's to give really pragmatic advice. Or you know, hand any pragmatic advice down? We found that this questions at least to set up to a silly answer if you want to do one.
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Time travel, you get a young, red redheaded, john Huck, you're more red headed, right? Yeah, I was strawberry blonde. But yeah, I was redder.
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When I was 13 my beard was more red. Okay, your beat Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the Midwestern toughness. So you grant you can grab him by his Oshkosh. But Gosh, overall lapels that I imagine he's in? No Sure. You can tell him something. Yeah, no, sure, for sure. And tell him one thing. What would you tell him? I would tell him celebrate what's great, I would tell him stop focusing on things that you don't like or stop thinking about the negative side of things and to move over because there's no you'll you'll just you'll be in a better place mentally and physically if you are not so fucking angry. And that was because I was a pretty angry kid. And I think
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I think that's what I would say as they Calm down, dude. Probably maybe slap them a little bit and then say, take it down a notch. Yeah, I can't see that. I can't see you being an angry kid. That's great. I didn't. I wasn't it wasn't like I walked around punching mailboxes off there. You know, I was like, it just, yeah, I just it wasn't enough. And look, a lot of it was probably just being a high schooler and being insecure. And being you know, oh, these girls don't like me or this group of idiots doesn't like me or whatever, you know, the kind of shit that plays out in high school kids mind, you know, right. Yeah, that's good advice. Yeah, we talked a lot about reducing that radio noise as adults now and that's Yeah, an overview. Don't overthink don't think so much don't don't worry about Don't think about what am I going to do if I'm late for work tomorrow? What am I gonna you're not late yet you know? right Don't think like that. Don't think ahead. Just focus on what you're doing right in front of you. Right right. Yeah, stop overthinking. Just do more. is another Yeah, it's another theme that comes up Oh, just live just live in the present moment. So you know, I mean, don't you're not in the past is done. You can't move. You can't travel into the future to see what's going to happen. No second past now is guaranteed. You're gonna travel back to the 1993 Chicago black talk team of Chris Chelios Mark guli. A Jeremy roenick. Steven, Steve Smith. Oh, hold on. I can do it all.
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Your uncle, and
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I can't remember the other defenseman that used to be my squad in the NHL. 93 Oh, before the lightning Yeah, yeah. So I get it. I always do. I can't get that other defenseman is gonna fucking or Steve Lamar, Lamar, maybe we don't know. Maybe.
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I was like, this is gonna knock his fucking socks off. It did because I'll tell you something. I didn't start watching hockey until like, mid early 2000s. When I was a kid, the Blackhawks weren't on TV. So, so I didn't, I couldn't I didn't want my dad didn't follow hockey. So I watched bears games, and I would come around when I came home from kindergarten. But that was it. I got into the bowls as I got older because I started to like basketball and they were in obviously with Jordan. They were everywhere.
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Right? But then like the Hawks who was like I did a commercial with a friend of mine who was from Chicago that I he was like, Oh, I might you come to Vegas White Sox. And he goes Hawks. I go, watch hockey goes, Well, let's change that. And Dude, I got hooked, like two years before they won that first cup in 2000. Whatever the cup in 2010. Yeah. So it was like it was the perfect time. Like I got right. Like they had got come off a decade of being terrible. And they've just started to kick ass and I was like, Oh, hello. Yeah, so it was it was really good. My finals that year was the lightning. No, not that year. I went to that. I went to that one of those Stanley Cup games. That was the that was the third one. That was the third one. They won in the in the in that three. So the first one was against the flyers.
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The second one was against the Bruins. And then the third one was against the lightning. Yeah. And that Bruins won. The first game went into triple overtime. And they play full periods. They played games that first game. Yeah. It's crazy. It was insane. Yeah. And the those hockey players that's how they kind of live their life as to kind of bring it all kind of tie it in. Like they're very much about the president. They're very much now. They're very humble. They don't worry about a lot of stuff. Have you ever talked to any of these hockey players? It's always we're not I I know. I know it team. They're team players. Right? They give their teeth for the other guys. Yeah. So I love hockey players are great. Well, we'd love to have any man who will have you on again. Yeah. Anytime you want to come on and promote anything you got coming up. Let us know. I'm right now I'm just promoting that podcast. People want to check it out. It's very good, man. I love that. Thank you. Thank you, man. Thank you. All right. Well, we. We're out of here, man. Thank you. Awesome. Thanks a lot, guys. Appreciate it.
