#338: How To Grant Yourself The Power of Trim

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SPEAKERS

Law (76%), Speaker 2 (20%), Speaker 3 (<1%) 

Law Smith

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do sweat equity podcast and streaming show number one comedy business business comedy podcast didn't move money I thought that was a longer way to pay for it. But that soundtrack

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Speaker 2

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Yes. I don't know. I don't know what do you try to sound everyone comedy business podcasts the world gallery

Law Smith

0:26

is the best way to start off the show. Advice with real raw dog talk for YOUR 2020s BEST small medium enterprise business visor podcast in the United States were 2021 Best podcast in streaming entertainment studio, eastern United States media innovator awards 2021 notes by core grid vision Mac as a We won another award. I forgot what it is on my rundown. But we already won another 2021 award, because some of those awards might be fake. Well, I

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Speaker 2

1:00

mean, they give out a complimentary package. I do want to buy where that I think I draw the line in the sand. I do appreciate. I gotta

Law Smith

1:07

be honest, I kind of want to buy a trophy for $200 Ah,

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I think great British pounds. It's not very

Law Smith

1:13

prudent. So I'm not gonna listen to us on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Amazon podcasts, Google podcasts, anywhere podcasts are listened to or served or deployed or published in those eardrums yours you said serve last time. It might getting served in the intro. Is that what's going on like you got served. This episode just gonna run down. All our sponsors, try expressvpn.com forward slash twit gets you three months free off an annual plan off a virtual private network. Log in to an IP in the sky. It's like a computer in the sky. Don't get tracked by Big Data. You want to log into another country use that IP address ExpressVPN try expressvpn.com forward slash sweat grasshopper try grasshopper.com. Forward slash sweat get $75 off an annual plan. That's the entrepreneurs phone line. Get a second app on your phone for your business in Warby Parker. Eyeglasses sunglasses prescription if you need it. Warby Parker trial.com. Fire five free pairs to try out I'm the micromachines guy motherfucker. Let's do this. Hi. My sweater my sweater

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coming in hot impressive energy Pro.

Law Smith

2:47

I've well it was slow to start. I thought I heard the music kind of fading into the crescendo of it. Yes. Trying to pump it up. You got hot ears. If anybody's watching anyway,

2:58

see my ears?

3:00

I don't know what that is. I don't

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Speaker 2

3:02

know either. But I did start out with just one two. I was like, my body's dying. And then the other one. So that makes it okay. When they're both read. Yeah, cuz that means symmetry. And you're not dying.

3:16

Well. I'm a doctor.

Law Smith

3:18

It's one of those things that's like that you have like you know, like a stain on your shirt. No one sees but it bothers you. Like it's usually my stains. Everybody sees them. Well, I wouldn't barbecue stained orange t shirt jeans. But I mean, that's like, I wouldn't have noticed until you said something before we got on air. And now I empathize because I hate having hot the hot air thing. I don't don't get it. If you have water today. Yes, I

3:46

drink a lot of water. Jake, Nebraska.

Law Smith

3:48

Did you get enough sleep? Yeah, I slept good. What's different about today?

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Speaker 2

3:52

I don't know. I guess my ears are warmer than the rest of my body.

Law Smith

3:56

Yeah. Well, yeah. And you don't wear

3:59

should do a podcast about medical advice.

Law Smith

4:03

My medical advice would be don't go on WebMD because it just all it's just a decision tree that leads to answer leads to cancer would be or you have AIDS or something. It's always miserable every time we go on WebMD I want to follow up from our last episode, where we're dispensing advice to young ghost. Yes, we'll catch everybody.

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child die.

Law Smith

4:27

He's live. He's younger for that, for that knowledge. Right. So I feel like we have to give a postscript to that. The backstory is this young man named ghost was looking for opportunities and thought this guy Eric, he looks with hot ears. He looks like businessman. He looks like he can make some stuff happen. And he proceeded to text you in a very what I would call Tinder Congress. I like that of

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Speaker 3

5:02

a dating app almost 10 T i n d or not? T? No, no, not not

Law Smith

5:07

not like, loving lube. Right? It was, it was like he was talking to you on a dating app trying to hook up.

5:14

Right? Kind of like, shit attitude.

Law Smith

5:17

Well, a lot of misspelled shit telling telling you to call him

5:21

right now.

Law Smith

5:22

Right, which is, so to be clear, we

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Speaker 2

5:24

were not making fun of the guy. That's not at all what it was, if it came across at all, like at all, but at the same time, you know, we're here to give our side of it. He wanted advice. How do we and you know, right, exactly. And he got it.

5:42

So he did.

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Speaker 2

5:44

Yeah. I mean, he listened to at least a part of the show.

Law Smith

5:49

I don't think he listened to the whole thing.

5:51

I think he he got he got deep,

Law Smith

5:53

because?

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Speaker 2

5:55

Well, yeah, I don't actually recall what you would said about his father.

Law Smith

6:00

No, I just said this guy. The way he's trying to talk to you, by the way, not we're not sober while we're doing this. But I feel I'll bring it up because I felt I feel clairvoyant. Like I feel like, you know, when, when my brain wasn't working when going through a bunch of personal drama. I didn't, I couldn't make a read like that. And now it for me, it's a little validating, because it's like, oh, my instincts are back kind of thing. Right. All I said was like, all I said, was that it the way he's going about it? Is like he didn't have a dad to teach him stuff. Like how to talk to people like this. This is the disciplines i and the reason I say that is because I think about it a lot for my kids, right? I'm trying to teach them how to shake hands, even though they're five and 42.

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Speaker 2

6:54

Yeah, it's adorable. But it's doing it to come on.

Law Smith

6:58

Look, people in the eyes. You know, if you say sorry, to your sibling, I want you to look them in the eyes and say, sorry, and walk away, roll your eyes when you're doing this, or I think these are the dad things. Typically,

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Speaker 2

7:10

I get what you're saying. I know. I know. You weren't trying to be a dick. No.

Law Smith

7:15

But you know, at the same time, this is a show to be funny as well. Like, it's not just we want to have a mix of real advice by users. But we don't want to be sacrimoni Sweet. And my thing was like, it validated my my thought and I was going from A to C without B. Right? Trying to go the sounds I shouldn't

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Speaker 2

7:39

mentor him. I'm no I'm full business Dad,

Law Smith

7:42

I'm full. I just I just got off an hour in 15 minute advisory board call that got asked to be on an advisory board for my kids, former school, a nonprofit. I'm the youngest person on the board. By 20 years, I think it was, like half the meeting. I'm already pretty frustrated, because I know this is gonna be a low tech struggle. And it's it's not anybody on the board. Everybody's great. It's me being frustrated, like the zoom. They're like they couldn't figure out zoom for most of the meeting. It's like this. I'm still sharing the screen. How do I get this off? And like,

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Speaker 2

8:22

a little bit on them. You're hosting this, the Zoom soiree where you was not exactly so we're doing that.

Law Smith

8:30

But I will tell you, I was like, I'll take the initiative, because they sent it via email. Here's the Zoom link. And I was like, Hey, is it cool? I'll just send out a calendar invite. Because I feel like that's kind of formal. We live in that world where that was it. That's kind of what you do with Zoom meeting calendar, the computer, and I said it and then. So there's 16 people on this thing. I think 10 of them replied back to me. Oh, not going? No. They said, I'll be there. I was like, all you got to do is just hit the attending. Oh, they just say yes. To

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message out bad.

Law Smith

9:04

They wrote it back. All you do is click a button like this. Like I was asking them in emails like this could be this could be rough. And I've already I've already decreed myself, I'm going to be a little bit Curt to get stuff done, or else I'll be very, very frustrated.

9:23

Well, I mean, like, Okay,

Law Smith

9:25

I mean, typically, I try to say yes. Because I want to help. I want to help the school out.

9:30

All right, Kurt.

Law Smith

9:32

I told me Kurt Warner did. What I'm saying is, you know, when you're walking into like, this is gonna be a project. I just walked into as volunteer, right, do a lot of volunteering as well, like, you're like, okay, but I want to make this worth my time because we've both volunteered for stuff, especially in the digital services to donate. Right? And it's like, I now know to be a little bit like this is how This is how it shall go. Yes. Or I'm out if there Yeah. Like, I'm like, I was thinking about like, I'm going to make a website. And I'm not going to ask for anybody's input. Oh, I'm gonna make

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Speaker 2

10:11

input. No, right? No, just do everything, right. And just be like, here it is. I don't know, it's,

Law Smith

10:18

I jumped off the car, I

10:19

spelled your name wrong.

Law Smith

10:21

I jumped off the call just too. And I texted the executive director of the school and I was just like, I quit, I had to jump off. Because we're doing this, I had to jump off the call. And I was like, I'll take care of the branding and all the, you know, marketing strategy in the digital marketing tactics and stuff. I'll take care of all of that. I was like, that's how I left it. Yeah, she's like, great.

10:41

Fantastic. She's

Law Smith

10:42

cool. We can say that. Yeah.

10:44

Let's see what most of the time especially with volunteers situation.

Law Smith

10:47

One thing that got me thinking though, there's a lot of grant talk, a lot of talk about,

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Speaker 2

10:52

we got Kurt, we got grant games, I gotta remember as

Law Smith

10:57

a lot of 90s guy names, right?

11:00

We used to Nash grows

Law Smith

11:03

to a great hill, but I work. Now, I'm trying to think of other grants, I can't do

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it, Horace Grant,

Law Smith

11:14

but I was doing this independent. I was searching the other day independent of this of the school stuff. And I was like, remember, we had David Albright, Albrecht, remember that it was? Well, he was on probably a year and a half ago, maybe two years ago, he was a acquaintance of mine that created like his own program, his own app, where it can basically find it finds all the tax breaks for your company that you might need. Okay, so he has a consulting service, like I will find you money kind of thing, right? Not only does he come in as a consultant in like, you know, help with the that what you would think a consultant would do to kind of cost accounting stuff. But he also does, he also made his own like program to indexes all the shit online, all the government sites, and has all the grants and all the tax breaks that you can do, if you do XY and Z kind of thing. pretty brilliant. Yeah. So I was

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just looking at the site.

Law Smith

12:18

He's not gonna know it's his program.

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I'm saying this program, I lay out a site that did it.

Law Smith

12:23

Now he made his own like software, how

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do people get hold of him?

Law Smith

12:28

Through our website,

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we're gonna look it up later, but at the show notes.

Law Smith

12:33

No, I'm saying he it's diabolical because it's, I just got an email about this from this is what I brought it up. I I got a cold marketing email from an email I just made so it's definitely got like, it definitely got like scraped off the LinkedIn because I made an email account you just made right and I made why haven't I heard of this email account? It's it's law at law Smith works calm. It's because I haven't made my personal site yet that I'm working on. I didn't ask for it. I mean, I don't care if people get everybody anybody listening? Email me if you want email questions in the show?

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Because only you know the rules.

Law Smith

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Yeah, only if they're girthy. Shit. And so I'll take I'll take a clam grand

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Speaker 2

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as well. Sam grams and dictate only if it's nasty. Yes. All right.

Law Smith

13:27

So I got a cold marketing email from an I put this email as my contact email on LinkedIn. So it definitely got index I'm doing is a little bit of a test to see what how much shit comes in from this from that, right.

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Speaker 2

13:42

Okay, a lot. That is as nerdy as scientific experiment.

Law Smith

13:47

This is. This is who you're heterosexual, heterosexual marriage, I

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agreed to marry this guy.

Law Smith

13:54

What? So I like A B test. I like I like throwing out a theory. I was like, I get a lot of garbage emails. And I think it's because my, my stuff gets scraped off LinkedIn. And I go, I just want to isolate it and just see what what's what. Okay. And so I got one that was like, you can have a membership. For a website, like David has to search for grants, and the subscription model to sign up is like 20 bucks a week to be able to find everything. All they're doing is taking public information, indexing it, putting it in their own search, right, right. It's not

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Speaker 2

14:31

hidden grants, it's out there. But if you've ever seen a bill become a law and for some reason every single thing they put through Congress has to have 9000 pages God only knows what they're putting in there like that's why it's a nice programs because you can't nobody's gonna sit read all that shit.

Law Smith

14:49

Well, that they're the government sites are true. They don't treat it like a business right? So so they don't they

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don't want people knowing about

Law Smith

14:56

it really. They do but they don't Yeah, you're doing enough, right. So they do. It's all it's online to them. Right. So it's out there. On the worldwide web, we uploaded the PDF. Yeah, is your web crawler getting the offline? And so, yeah, that's part of it to actually, a lot of government sites I've noticed will upload PDFs that are indexable by search. So it's one of those things that, you know, in necessity breeds innovation. It's one of those things where I, I part of me was like, I kind of want to do it a trial just to see what it procures, you know, yeah. But

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Speaker 2

15:35

like, why would you need a subscription? Why would you need more than a week? Um, I just don't I don't know. That's i It's like, I mean, how often am I checking for grants? I mean, I don't know how many grants come through. Are there a shitload of grants every week that there's a lot up? So yeah, I don't know, we should learn about things before we talk about.

Law Smith

15:52

So I was thinking about it for a show, honestly, because there's grants that we could probably get for this shot, Kurt. Some grants. So you have a county grant, you have county grants, you have city grants, you have your state and you have federal right. And then that's not even including like privatize grants out there. Sure. Right. So they're, it's one of those things when you're nonprofit, you're trying to go I'm in my head, I'm listening to this, to this advisory board, Amman, and they're talking a lot about grants. And I'm like, yeah, there's got to be a lot of other opportunities out there that, you know, used to just need to know someone that new stuff going on civically? Yeah, but I think I, I think I'll do some extra credit and see what I can find whatever. There's

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Speaker 2

16:39

got to be a strategy to it. I mean, there's got to be some kind of way to, to game it to narrow it down. What Yeah, it got me thinking like, Okay, some sort of metrics that you're saying, Oh, you want to look at this for your what you're looking for, for

Law Smith

16:53

a Google alert that will get you for a grant that says XYZ, right. We might be qualified for and we'll be the first to know, you know, there's a lot of programmatic shit with grant monies like, even even with the federal, like payouts, like PPP loans and stuff. I remember hearing that, like, the way you get is if you had a programmatic way programmatic like app that would submit for you to get that loan.

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Speaker 2

17:24

I when I hear that, I think there's like high value programmatic. Right. Exactly. But you're saying it for I don't people are

Law Smith

17:32

doing it for for PPP loans for so think of anything that's bottlenecked Oh, like false ones, like just No, no legit ones. But it's

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Speaker 2

17:40

like, usually businesses people only buy point.

Law Smith

17:43

Oh, I mean, that's a very, like, that's a savvy move that our our friend was doing. And then like, he heard about it from the big dogs doing it. Right. You know, we're in the marketing automation space of sorts. So it's like, he knew, Okay, the big banks are doing this. So let's see if we can do it on a smaller Oh, yeah. I mean, we'll do to the small bank.

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Speaker 2

18:06

It's dude, anything that has to do with timeliness on the internet? Yeah, has a bot. Right. It'll do better than you will. Right. Like the shoe apps like looking for new Jordans. Guess what? There's a guy in Russia with a bot that's getting all the shit you want? Yeah. And he doesn't have to be there. It's kind of like a douche

Law Smith

18:27

in a way it sucks. If you're like consumer, like, right, really genuinely think you're waiting?

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Speaker 2

18:35

Fun. You know, it's a fun idea. Like, oh, you're gonna you get you enter the raffle you enter the draw to see if you get the shoes sort of thing, right? And then it's just like, well, whatever they're doing. That's what works.

Law Smith

18:47

Yeah. I mean, it's, yeah, it what it's intangible. And you can find shortcuts, you're going to take advantage of it. Right. But I meant to say it was some big businesses trying to get these loans these like, federal bailout loans or whatever. The banks, the big banks were using or goddamnit. The big businesses what we're using it to get loans, like PPD

19:17

for sorry, ramble on a lot longer.

Law Smith

19:19

Why said I was a bit sad

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Speaker 2

19:21

when the crickets? Well, look, we could talk. I'm sure you were right about what you said.

Law Smith

19:27

We can talk tech stack, stuff like that.

19:31

How you want to talk about it?

Law Smith

19:33

I don't know. I mean, you're it's been on your mind. Oh, well. I mean, how about this, we'll start this way. Everybody on a consumer level. There's a lot of bots that will help you lower your bills because it is almost programmatic to negotiate with a lot of things. Sure. So trim. I think it's trim dot CEO. Yeah, I used it once upon a time it actually does work out

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Speaker 2

19:58

about that guy. Yeah. Yeah, you wrote about it all the time.

Law Smith

20:02

Cuz I was gone. So yeah, nope. That's a haircare cutting company.

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Speaker 2

20:10

Surprise you.co and just finish her off calm drink calm. Oh god, don't click on that. Another beauty tools

Law Smith

20:22

don't get a trim.co or trim.com or top girl.com Because that's a completely bad site. But trim,

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Speaker 2

20:32

trim cut bills down calm. You'll get it. We'll just guess we'll just guess it.

Law Smith

20:38

What is it called? It's called.org? No. Maybe it's as trim? That's it? Yeah. All right. The name is trim. Oh, the name is true. Yeah, it's true. It should be memorable, because it's what you can call vagina. Oh, that's good. This is a comedy show really good

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joke.

Law Smith

21:06

Well, honestly, that's how I do remember all my hat, right? Well, if it's anywhere close to a ditch joke, it's, I probably got a good memory of it. But what it does, what it does is if you sign up for this, now, here's here's, there's always a catch, right? So the catch is, you link it into your bank account, and it'll see all your transactions, sure, they can see that. So for us, we don't give a shit. They don't judge us, well, it's a bot, it doesn't judge anything. But their take, the long game is they probably this is where I stop with it. And I make sure to delete all my, my footprint on there was in the long game, it's gonna get all your data in I know, you know, this might be big, a bigger fear that might not ever happen. But you know, like the 23andme thing where you don't want to do it because everybody can eventually have your data purchased. And it can affect like your credit, stuff like that, you know,

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they already have everything they need to affect your credit.

Law Smith

22:13

Well, I do believe we have a lot of data out there. We don't know how to use it or connect it correctly. A lot of ways. There's a lot of bad data stolen stuff. There. The data is out there, I believe but like, I don't think we know how to properly kind of integrate it into anything yet. Right?

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Speaker 2

22:31

And you're you doing anything, it's not gonna matter. But if you're gonna get it eventually if

Law Smith

22:36

you are a person and over and take it if you are a person that has two checking accounts, that one is just for like personal bills or something. And the others, right, your family do ma si PS shit. That would make sense. That's what I might do just because I'm curious about it, but it's like, so what it'll do is it will interact with customer service. Like chat bots and stuff.

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Speaker 2

23:03

And that is creepy because they're talking to another bot. Yep. On the other end. Exactly. Right. learning from each other. Right? Like we could run this whole fucking thing if we want guys.

Law Smith

23:13

It's pretty creepy honestly, because on like Verizon, for example, they will push you to the automated chat that's supposed to for the low tech crowd or

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Speaker 2

23:22

somewhere you want to talk to a real person. You're sure we're pretty sure this decision tree we've made is gonna really point you in the right direction.

Law Smith

23:29

And I yell at my computer. There's only four options. You guys are greater. You guys are all in fucking cahoots. Like, you got it?

23:37

Yes, you win.

Law Smith

23:38

It's an oligopoly. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's a word.

23:43

It's word. I

Law Smith

23:43

don't know if it applies. Yeah, there's only like four or five cell carriers in the United States.

23:48

Yeah, promise me.

Law Smith

23:50

We don't google that word. oligopoly. What's not asked you to promise monopoly?

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Speaker 2

23:56

One, Polly. I believe

Law Smith

23:59

111 owns the whole thing, right? Yes. oligopoly? Would you like a

24:06

consortial League?

Law Smith

24:08

All League? Oh, that's

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Speaker 2

24:11

a real name. Definitely nhl.com Look that up. It's on. It's on there somewhere.

Law Smith

24:17

A state of limited competition in which a market is shared by a small number of producers or sellers or so. Airlines, cell phone internet providers, like credit card companies banks, you know, they kind of dictate the market now banks have there's a lot more banks but really like cell phones you got you think like Bruce mobile's like a deal. And it's like, oh, this is not the backbone of sprint. Right? Oh, yeah. This is just a brand extension. Yeah,

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Speaker 2

24:47

they didn't grassroots a bunch of people together, start building their own towers. You know, we're gonna do it on our own guys. Just like can we do Star Wars Shut up on top of your shit. Well,

Law Smith

24:57

one of the funniest things like Portlandia had the one about doing A startup cell phone company. And it's like, that's basically to me, that's what that episode is about is like, oh, there's just some shit. You just you'll never there's

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Speaker 2

25:08

such a high starting your own cell phone company, there's such a high

Law Smith

25:11

barrier to entry that like, and we just kind of lay over and take it.

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Speaker 2

25:16

Yeah, there's like three people in the United States that could start their own cell company. Right. Like they have the infrastructure and the money. You know, it realistically, there's, you can't do everything. Right dreams.

Law Smith

25:29

Yeah, it's same thing, like so it's that's kind of a utility now that everybody has to have same with internet. And you're like, well, whatever, wherever they laid fiber in my neighborhood is what I have to get. You know, like, there's not a lot of choices out there. Yeah. I mean, we love corporate consolidation. Yeah. Tired, higher than ever. We've been doing

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Speaker 2

25:50

it with municipal shit for years and years already. Garbage, water and electricity, you know? Yeah, but the good, we don't have a choice for electricity.

Law Smith

25:58

The good news is there's always room for someone to come in or Electric Company. Ooh, well, I mean, you can, like, Southwest was kind of innovative in the fact that they go, we'll take old planes. We'll, we'll make our own airline of that. And we'll make it like, the small, small flight paths, and kind of work their way up that way. Yeah. But now the other one of the big dogs. Yes. And, and they're, they're still better in our head, because we still think of them as cheap. And they don't charge you for bags. Are they cheap? So I don't know. They're the tickets are even. But if you try to put it up next to the other, like American and delta, like, the other parts of it, where you don't have to, like pay for seats? Uh huh. Have you been on a flight now? Every seat is like, what your every seat is? Like, every seat is like you have to pay extra basically.

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Speaker 2

26:55

Every seat. Yeah, they're like, it's like go standing there like so. It's the only thing basically it's like,

Law Smith

27:01

they have like, Ryan air does that in England, but it's cool.

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Speaker 2

27:05

Actually. I wouldn't mind it. Yeah. So bad standing guy.

Law Smith

27:09

I probably wouldn't want to do it across country, but you know, that would be a bit much. Yeah. Well, we laugh about it. And then it's like I was a graduate

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Speaker 2

27:21

of that style fall asleep. Oh, that thing? Oh, no, I

Law Smith

27:25

don't even move in minutes. And I'm crisscross applesauce on the ground.

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Speaker 2

27:31

Yeah, just head down to her. Yeah. Yeah. GP yourself. And

Law Smith

27:36

you're like it only take seven seconds for Americans to just treat it like a bathroom. Right? If it's one big Camille? Yeah. There'll be fights everywhere. It'd be terrible. We're not good at that. We need personal space, but the tech stack stuff like there is. You know, we don't we don't really get into accounting that much in the show. But

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Speaker 2

27:59

well, there's I mean, forget the money part of it. How about just remembering all your passwords? Or how many things that you pay for that you don't even go right back to the money. But like just stuff that like it's just an extra piece of RAM in your mind that takes like, oh yeah, I pay for. I have LifeLock was that do? Yeah, I want to have it I don't want to not have it was like you said it's like not LifeLock so rip off right. We decide that. I don't think it's horrible. I think it's pretty much rip off. I don't think I don't think they can do deck. They can't do what you think they can do flock. Dudek

Law Smith

28:37

they, you got a computer right there. They they, what's it called? They? They're like an expediter if you get in trouble, but they're not gonna they what you think what everybody thinks they do is like solve the problem. But that's not what they promised. They promised, like, Will will expedite this to get it resolved quicker, basically.

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Speaker 2

29:01

Yeah, it'll make it out like that, though. Oh, no, it'll sound like that in their in their ads. I was a member for a while. Yeah, me too. Both suckers. But anyways, there's a lot of shit that you

Law Smith

29:11

just Well, that's a fear purchase on our part. You know, that's all that is. Of

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Speaker 2

29:15

course, it's insurance. You think it's digital identity insurance.

Law Smith

29:19

Right? Right. And then I done another one. I was telling you the other day, I've done one like a ID ID no fight or something. It's spelled wrong from like, one of the credit company has like an add on. I was like, I'll try this out. And it's like, here's all the shit you're listed on online. Basically, here's all the places your email password had been compromised. And it's like, a crazy long list. Oh, really? Yeah. Because we were online a lot more than the average person. So it's like, we've got subscriptions everywhere. So I was like, I'm going to try to make it my mission to kind of declutter that, like, reduce that over time. Yeah,

30:00

no, that's good. I mean,

Law Smith

30:02

I showed you fast people search calm, right? That's a good, that's a good one. That I mean, if there's anything anybody takes away from this episode, if you have a number that hires you for CPN, if you have a number that calls you, I learned this from a business development gal at one of those, like, suit companies that's really aggressive. And it's like, you know, they call you up, and they're like, hey, they'll leverage some one, some LinkedIn connection, they'll be like, I know this person. I'm in town, and it's, uh, can I come by your office to measure you? I'm like, I don't

2

Speaker 2

30:33

called you on the phone. Yeah, yeah. That's it.

Law Smith

30:37

Well, they looked up, like when I had the agency, owner of the agency, and then I think they just looked at the profile is like, oh, he has an office, and then try to like leverage, like, oh, I went to Auburn to or something like, I know this person, and they told me about you. There's actually a thing going around with a bunch of guy friends of mine that we would refer other buddies, knowing this would be a waste of time for them.

2

Speaker 2

31:01

Oh, that's probably just years and years of residual effects from that. What? What's happening to you? It's people wanting to try to turn you or whatever the hell you're talking.

Law Smith

31:12

No, no, I'm just saying I think it's a funny business model. They're just very aggressive about going to your office to measure to you to get your suits made. And now we look at the suit market. It's all like, you can get a suit for 200 pounds, right? Not too terrible. Good. And then enough for us.

31:28

But what's a quarter $200 who

31:30

kind of guys

Law Smith

31:31

yeah, what are we the $3,000 suit

31:35

$6,000

Law Smith

31:37

But she showed me because she had to reverse search all these phone numbers that were calling her back and stuff. And she told me about fast people search calm and it'll it'll bring up now Spokeo a lot of people will Google like reverse Reverse Phone Number search and Spokeo probably come up what first? I used to use white pages but fast people search is better than all those other ones. And it is creepy.

32:06

If Why is it better?

Law Smith

32:07

I don't know. It gives you more info it does have does have a lot of upsells either. Yeah,

2

Speaker 2

32:13

no I mean it it digs deep pulls up dead people's like anything that's ever been connected to this phone number anyway. Yeah, here it is. We're not saying what it means there it's public

Law Smith

32:26

information again just like the grant search or the get tax benefit into the search it it is pulling up public record and I was telling you like next time I buy a house I'll this will be a pain in the ass to make it like an LLC. Just to protect that that party you but I fucking hate that all that shuts public record what

2

Speaker 2

32:47

you're gonna buy form an LLC to buy your house. Yeah, just as a protection here but in Florida. I think you're you should not do that. We're too dumb to get into this for I was waiting for you to learn. I definitely have no, I know what hit the brakes on something. Fuck. I'm gonna say it like I think Florida you can not lose your house and your house is very protected. Somehow. Yeah, but

Law Smith

33:11

your your your name? LifeLock. And stuff is on public record. Yeah.

2

Speaker 2

33:17

I don't like that. Yeah, but then the name of the businesses on record.

Law Smith

33:22

Yeah, but you can hide that through a holding company. But I'm saying like it, it would be elaborate. It'd be almost Howard. Aged I guess. Yeah, it'd be Howard Hughes. He kind of like paranoid but I don't know. I just said something about it. I don't like that. It's out there. Not that. I have anything to hide. Or I'm worried about anybody finding me because I don't have a lot of I don't have a lot of

33:43

Yeah, what are you worried about?

Law Smith

33:44

I don't know, man.

33:45

It used the publicity. Yeah. But uh, yeah, for one extra person fast people search. People Search. One more listener.

Law Smith

33:53

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