#391: How To Infer The 80/20 Principle In Your Work, Relationships And Life w/ Josh Kennedy
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SPEAKERS
Law (56%), Speaker 3 (25%), Eric (12%), Speaker 2 (3%)
Law Smith
0:03
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0:28
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Law Smith
0:31
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Speaker 2
1:40
steal people's phones. Yes steal bribe I just put it by the way.
Law Smith
1:43
No, God I would love that. Let's get this party started with friend of the program. Josh Kennedy.
Law Smith
1:50
It's called sweat sweat equity sweat sweat equity you are listening to the sweat equity podcast. Sweat equity.
Eric Readinger
2:18
Josh likes the new music.
2:20
You like it? Bob my head I love it sounds good.
Law Smith
2:22
You gotta get right up in that. So you might want to scoot your stool closer. Scoot your Gooch you gotta get like you're blowing right in the decal of a robot penis. Yeah,
2:33
and studio logistics.
Eric Readinger
2:34
We're gonna do a thing where we like didn't talk
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Speaker 2
2:36
like that. Oh, well, I mean, that's not bad because I'm not going to edit it out. I'll feel like that's not bad. Are you?
Law Smith
2:42
wasted?
2:44
I'm completely sober.
Law Smith
2:46
I know it or not. How long has it been?
Eric Readinger
2:48
Now? It's like six months since the last time I said it was six months. It was like four and a half.
Law Smith
2:54
Six months. No booze man. That's
Eric Readinger
2:58
that's and the once a year Christmas party we always go to. I went over. I've been calling it a big one.
Law Smith
3:04
I've been calling it I went to a Filipino ugly sweater party. Yep. And I'd perfect never seen a 75 year old drunk elf Filipino guy almost fall in the pool. Because he's so wasted. Yeah, it was pretty entertaining. Like my second dad. Your second dad's cool as fuck. Why don't you I almost like had to grab them a couple times. Like I was like, Oh, I
3:28
know. I was watching it. Two feet
Law Smith
3:31
away. And then oh, by the way, the other thing that I loved was just, I think it's the mom, one of the moms because there's like 40 Filipino family members there when we walked in. And one of the moms is just outside in the screened in
Eric Readinger
3:48
my second mom, she's frying stats, that's just not to send this to them. What I love it. She
Law Smith
3:55
was just like, I'm gonna do my thing out here and
Eric Readinger
3:57
she will give me 40 Frozen lupia Tomorrow if I asked for it. Oh, I don't know what that is. But I was with the egg rolls.
Law Smith
4:03
Oh, that's what she was trying. Yeah, I loved it. I love all of that. Josh, why don't you plug yourself here? Why don't you tell people where to find you? What your bow cool Filipino
Eric Readinger
4:14
Christmas parties. You've been keeping Filipino though.
Law Smith
4:18
And by the way. This is interesting. You just took nicotine gum for the first first time for
4:22
the first time.
Law Smith
4:23
Is it burning your throat yet?
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Speaker 3
4:24
It's mild. Yeah. It'll get it'll get there. You guys have any milk carton or something that you could bring out? I don't know. Maybe no jump. What's his name? John Paul
4:36
Butler. I think he left he doesn't
Law Smith
4:38
even want to produce the show anymore. So yeah, what is it? Imagine dash affiliate.
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Speaker 3
4:46
Imagine dash affiliate, correct? Yes. And what is that? So the listener? So imagine marketing is my business and imagine dash affiliate.com is the name of the website where you can see the company Essentially what it is, it's a performance marketing or an affiliate marketing company. Really what that means is we use third party partnerships, and tracking to make sure that we can track performance from all these different places that we work with. So if you're in the kind of website, digital marketing, game and space, and you know, driving traffic, SEO or content or you know, paid media, all these things, we just do the partnership stuff.
Law Smith
5:22
All right. For those, that if that was to over people's heads, think referral codes, they all have that tracking to it reporting, or think when you get a, you share a link, and it has all that extra crap after the URL, it'll be a question mark, and then a bunch of numbers and letters. That's all tracking stuff. So that's how you can track sales, that might be
Eric Readinger
5:45
the most least known thing that we've brought to light. And it took us this long to even mention UTM codes, and what those are, I never thought about talking about it. Because I know, I know. But I mean, just somebody being like, oh, that's what that is. Okay. Yeah, yeah, I'll go home and told her wife and be like, Wow, you're really smart. I think that's I'm six.
6:04
Well, it's
6:06
thanks, UTM code.
Law Smith
6:08
It's interesting, too, because it's, it's not quite just that, but I'm just trying to give the example that those links that you try, you can have someone for you, if you have a product, or you're trying to generate leads for a service business or whatever, you can outsource it to affiliate marketers. They push it out as your kind of ad department of so
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Speaker 3
6:29
yes, I think a good parallel is the idea of borrowed interest, right. So it's like if you are in or
Law Smith
6:34
I think I think annuities that are good. Go ahead
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Speaker 3
6:44
with borrowed interest, right? If you're on someone else's podcast, or if you're just reaching into someone else's audience. So that's essentially what we're trying to do with our businesses. We're just reaching into other people's audiences, and then we're giving them a cut back for for doing that.
Law Smith
6:56
Yeah, it's a really efficient way to, to get sales online. Honestly, that's how I got into all this digital nerd stuff was affiliate marketing, green coffee bean extract, because Dr. Oz went on on the air and said, you can lose weight with this miracle pill. And then all these jabroni companies started popping up that needed people to advertise. Now, I was on the dark side of that you're on the good side, right now. So it's
7:26
how high is the pile of credit cards you have?
Law Smith
7:28
I bought I walked in, I swear it was gonna be like boiler room, like just always gonna walk in, there's gonna be a phone on the ground, you know, like ringing off the hook, no chairs or anything. Like I walked in, there was a pile of credit cards, because we're buying so many Facebook ad accounts, so many Google accounts. And that same night, I walked into the office, the accountant that would fly in every week.
7:54
Always a good sign. She was like an FBA citizen. She
Law Smith
7:58
goes, I can't do this anymore, you guys. It's too crazy and just walked out. And I was like, I think I gotta get a different job.
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Speaker 2
8:04
Like, I'm with the accountant. Well, yeah, it was
Law Smith
8:07
it was pretty. And I was running a warehouse for because we started making our own product eventually, to make $1 more, because we're doing about 3000 unit 3000 packages a day. 3000 orders. And so yeah, but here's the funny part. In Largo, running a warehouse with like, $8 an hour Craigslist, people that were all drug. Funny. That's sad. It was really sad. And they all were telling each other. They'd be like, Oh, dude, Randy's in the bathroom. Do it dude. Opiates man. Took my tissues. I'm like, I don't care. I don't care if you're not coming out of this office part of the way
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Speaker 2
8:46
What are you gonna do? Just put it all give it back put put these
Law Smith
8:50
bottles in the in the package seal it I don't care. Anyway, that's not how I thought we'd start this but I've got a I've been noticing Josh fucking thing sucks. You put a lot of stuff out there online. Some deep thoughts by Jack Handey ish things so I thought it'd be it'd be good game to kind of pull some of these beforehand.
Eric Readinger
9:15
First of all, let me clarify this is not a game. No, life's not a game. No. Business you're calling a game is just reading and laughing It's well is there
Law Smith
9:25
it's a template for a conversation maybe Okay, that's better. Breaker. I don't know what do you what would you call it? I thought it'd be fun to rundown
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Speaker 3
9:36
so is this in lieu of a rap sheet this is how you guys bring people in?
Eric Readinger
9:41
No no, it's uh you know, we don't get this kind of since you're in your in house so we got to we got to actually prepare a little
Law Smith
9:49
in here. You got a comedy background I'm sure I telling Eric I'm sure he'll be a good sport about this even though it because it it does feel vulnerable.
Eric Readinger
9:58
The things you're saying about a man Hello, but
Law Smith
10:01
there was a wise man did say vulnerability gets harder with time. It's still important, though. So what's going on with that? Is this is actually a journalist again.
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Speaker 3
10:13
I think it's just moments, it's moments of inspiration that I try to that I share whatever comes to mind, maybe I need to maybe I need to have a more of a filter anytime.
10:22
No, no, no, no.
Law Smith
10:23
If I didn't like it, I wouldn't have even thought of pulling it. Right. So it look putting these thoughts out. There is one of those things where it it is vulnerable. It is, I mean, doing comedies like that, and a lot of work, right. Yeah. So I respect it. I just tried to go through the last couple, like six months, pull some out. And I got a top three,
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Speaker 3
10:45
top three in the vulnerability made it that was my lead in
Law Smith
10:50
because I thought it was taste. Yeah. All right. I thought it was apropos.
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Speaker 3
10:54
So I guess. Yeah, I think I think I think the story behind that is as you get older, and I think we we talked about this a few minutes ago, as it gets a little bit more jaded as you get older. So maybe that's from business or from relationships or whatever, which I think those two connect together. So I think it's harder to be I think most of us have our guards up and we do life more calculated than we used to. So that's kind of my point there.
11:17
I see. Sure. Being vulnerable.
Law Smith
11:19
Sure. And as we come crustier old men, I feel like sometimes it's harder to get some of these thoughts, these kind of emotions out. Because you just kind of get set in your ways. It seems like just looking from older people I've seen in my life. Yeah. So this one's this one made me laugh. And it's really dark. But life is a joke. That really isn't that fun.
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Speaker 2
11:45
Yeah. Ironically, I go forward when I heard that. That is That's funny.
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Speaker 3
11:55
Well, it's there's a reference to a rap song in there as well. But I think I was probably just having a really credibly it's a no I think it's the 93 to infinity. Totally, guys, someone's gonna know that's listening to this. Maybe man, I'm
Law Smith
12:08
so out of music. I
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Speaker 3
12:10
can fog it. Sure. I could find it on Spotify. But no, I think it was I was having a shitty day. And I just probably had listened to that song the last few days and was like, hey, what do you guys do? I mean, you guys are trying to turn you started maybe in comedy before for business. So you tried to make life a comedy first. And they say comedy and tragedy are very similar. So what's your opinion?
Law Smith
12:31
Yeah, well, I mean, you could break down comedy if you want to. There's the reason they're side by side and the you know, the drama mask of you got the Happy Mask. And the sad one is, you know, some of the best comedy comes out of a tragedy. It's what's the what I was just watching Larry Sanders Show rewatching that whole series and it's like the there's an episode says, tragedy plus time equals comedy is the name of the episode. And it's one of those things. I don't think that came from Larry Sanders. No, no, no, no, but I mean, it was just exactly top of mind kind of thing. But it's one of those things that I took a writing class at Second City in LA when I was living out there, and one of the best things I kind of learned was like, oh, comedy is about conflict. It's about it's an oral contrast.
Eric Readinger
13:19
So point of view even should I hear is like funny to me. But whoever it happened to it's probably not very funny to them. You actually
Law Smith
13:26
beat me what I was gonna say so like, they would say like if you're if you need to kind of sample a template for writing comedy, like you're gonna throw the point of view where your normal look the rap sheet like Arrested Development, Michaels kind of normal is everybody else's wild around, right. So or it's the other way around? Yeah, the main character is crazy, like Kenny powers. And wow, that's a bad example, actually, because he's got Stevie and a bunch of other weird. Yeah, that one, but you can flip that you can inverse it. And so it's kind of invisible with
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Jenna Elfman. What was that? It was like our main piece. Yes.
Law Smith
14:04
If sicom I think so. Hardly. Wait. What? I mean, I don't know. You mean Danny Elfman sister.
Eric Readinger
14:12
That was my Kenny powers example.
Law Smith
14:15
So Greg
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Speaker 2
14:17
looked at me like I was dork
Law Smith
14:21
you know, I didn't know I thought Jeff said it I was it.
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Speaker 2
14:25
Yeah, yeah. I hold on.
Law Smith
14:29
I watched a case in the 90s. So another dark one I saw was life isn't isn't logical.
Eric Readinger
14:36
That dark? Well, why is that dark? You made that dark?
Law Smith
14:40
I coupled it with the first one I read it as dark No, I think I read it is a bad day.
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Speaker 3
14:51
So maybe it's my my way of complaining is just to speak in metaphors or something. I don't know.
Law Smith
14:56
What are you getting on stage more often? So I think that's gonna help but no, I mean, look I talked about it all the time. I'm so glad we have this show and stand up to like, have a creative outlet where I can bitch about stuff.
Eric Readinger
15:09
I think the thing is that people don't normally have great news happened to them and then life isn't logical, right? What the connotation that comes with it.
Law Smith
15:20
Don't stop doing this. Yeah. If you pull jokes I've read show. Is it logical? Yeah, this show is there's no genre like this show. So right. Do you want to read this? That one?
Eric Readinger
15:33
Yeah, this is my favorite one. I want to be with a woman that makes me feel uncomfortable.
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Speaker 3
15:39
Do you want to go first? All open Yeah. to divorce?
15:43
Well, I think I think one you might want to pull that with the
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Speaker 3
15:49
I stand. I stand by that as of right now. Now, I think the idea is that like a lot of people want to get like friend relationships. And they kind of like settle down, you know, that kind of like, two kids suburban type of, you know, setup. And it's like, I don't really want to ever necessarily be completely comfortable with the first things. I feel like at that point, you kind of lose that attraction for them that initial attraction. So my My thing is it just if I'm always a little bit tense, a little bit uncomfortable, I feel like I'm a little bit more attractive.
Eric Readinger
16:17
That sounds stressful. Yeah, you gotta hold that. You got to do that for sure. Your life? Your whole life? Are you gonna do that? You don't ever want to be comfortably on or feel comfortable? Your
Law Smith
16:26
headphones popping? Okay, it's just my
16:30
get those oldest shit.
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Speaker 3
16:32
I was gonna say, but they didn't really like comedy and stuff. Comedy isn't necessarily comfortable every time you stand up there, but it's a good experience. Right? So it's exhilarating.
Eric Readinger
16:40
Yes, exactly. And they should stay in a like, five minute increment of exhilaration, and not a 24 hour news cycle of I can scare the shit out of you.
16:50
You can always leave the house.
16:52
So you would think so
Law Smith
16:54
right? Yeah, you want to be a sad dad, Pat like me. I think really what I the the, the nuance I read in that was you. You want to be with someone that challenges you. You don't want to, you don't want to be with someone that's just go with the flow, whatever you want to do. doesn't bring anything new to the table. You know, when you have the same? You know, when it gets so rote. You have the same conversations. You're like you already told me that story?
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Speaker 3
17:23
Well, you just you just mentioned like a second study and everything. Now it's like the conflict that creates the interest, right? So I think people try to identify with other people and be friends with them by being more like them. But I think it's the contrast that and the polarity that you have with other people that makes it makes it interesting. So
Law Smith
17:38
see, this is a good setup. We're talking things here.
Eric Readinger
17:42
Let's like John Paul and I are not alike. At all. You got two best friends. You guys. Married couple. Yeah, but we're not at all like, but at the same time, like, creatively. He at least makes me think differently, that's for sure. Sure. Like just out of left field shit. We're like, How did that even happen? sort of thing. So it's good to have those people around, kind of bring that to the table. But you got to recognize it.
Law Smith
18:09
Yeah. And like we talked about on the show a couple times, like I heard from Jordan Harbinger show, he was reading a study about everybody knows the thing about the five people you hang out with the most influence you but also the indirect of those five people they hang out with influence you indirectly. And so you kind of have to figure out I think it's worth
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Speaker 2
18:34
a better private investigator. Well, another group of fives is
Law Smith
18:38
another live quote you had was it every decision in your life should be calculated? And, you know, I want to know that. If you know the point at which you said that type these things. I find that interesting.
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Speaker 3
18:51
Yeah, no, I mean, I think I'd maybe
Eric Readinger
18:57
you should see how long this list is.
19:00
Is there? Is there a cut off? Do we get to originally this was rolling through?
Law Smith
19:03
I mean, you got some on your mind. But this every production preparation, we've done, so
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Speaker 2
19:09
read some positive, positive range shots, how about some
Law Smith
19:13
business ones? All right. Is there a visitor? Yeah, let's go with I don't think people truly grasp the importance of the 8020 principle. And I kind of I would agree with that. What what was behind that?
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Speaker 3
19:27
So I think that's that is a lead into my company right now, because a lot of what I've done with my business is I was working at an agency that was considered one of the better agencies, you know, in the United States for what the affiliate marketing service, but really what happened is you found that there was only of the partnerships that we had across 1000s and 1000s of partnerships. There's probably 100 of those partnerships that generated any meaningful revenue for any of the clients or any value. And yet every time when you're supposed to have a biweekly call, or a monthly call with a client, you're supposed to show them new opportunities and say, like, Guys, you're wasting your time. There isn't there's no point in us showing this opportunity. If you have something that works, you just need to scale that opportunity or work with that opportunity, rather than dividing your interest over all these places. So even in my business now, like I have a client, you know, that's does probably 60% of the revenue of the company, and continues it is by far my most profitable client. And it's always going to be that way. So even within my clients themselves, so I think that agents responsible was
20:25
that so don't jinx yourself. It's always gonna be that way. That's always gonna be
Law Smith
20:32
my butthole. Like, I
20:33
had to say something. Yeah.
Law Smith
20:35
Yeah, well, um, and like, I mean, Eric, and I've lamented about this as well, like, the clients that take up the most time are the ones that are the, you know, doing the best, and we're not getting the best work done, because they, they just have to tap everything they have to. We got to, they don't know, they don't know how to make a decision. Yeah. That's why I kind of got went backwards in kind of a lot of the services and go, we're going to help you outline a strategy. So it's not we're not having to double think everything, or, or double back to redo something we've already done. You know? How about See, that was fine. You answered that one.
21:18
The other ones were good too? Well, yeah. Total up the score or anything,
Law Smith
21:23
I just don't, we can cut this off whenever you want. You just you say that you're not he's not gonna say, Oh, please, no, just the safe word sea cucumber. The confidence gets you into places you wouldn't be otherwise. And it's, that's another thing we've talked about on the show a lot. Fake it till you make it as you sneak into
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Speaker 3
21:44
the Superbowl? I did not attempt to know I hurt it. It's interesting. No, I mean, I think it is right. It's like, even you know, I've been starting to try to do the comedy scene and a little bit and everything. And I think a lot of it is, you know, creating your own your own destiny, right, I think you have to have, you know, talent or whatever. And that but it's also about like, hey, if there's an opportunity to for a conversation, or to put myself in a spot, that's, you know, three, four, whatever it had on the list, you got to kind of do that stuff. And so I think that overall, you know, I think you can get over, you're gonna have too much confidence you can be overconfident and not be able to see your, your weaknesses and your inner game, so to speak. But I think usually the, you know, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, right, and in business and life and all that kind of stuff. And I've seen that in my business. But I've also seen that trying to do the comedy scene a little bit here in Tampa. So
Law Smith
22:30
are you are you doing faux confidence on stage when you're getting on stage?
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Speaker 3
22:35
I think, um, I think I would like to be I have an honest appraisal of my confidence in terms of, you know, I think I'm building confidence. And I'm like, relatively confident, but I know I'm not the best. But also know that unless I go up there and at least have some some faux confidence is that they're not going to come with me. So
Law Smith
22:51
I kind of put confidence in two buckets. There's this sales guy bucket, right, I can sell you anything. You know, I'm a salesman, I can do whatever, that the same group has. The guys in high school that used to get a lot of ask that you're like that guy. Because they just happens
Eric Readinger
23:08
every day. Just don't happen. The more annoying confidence. Yeah.
Law Smith
23:11
Yeah, the one you wouldn't want to hang out with for very long. But like, I think confidence, I think about it lately, like I used to not be confident in the skills I had. And then it just became reps and it just became more reps. And I now I'm confident in you know what I do professionally? Because it's just like, almost empirical evidence after a while, right?
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Speaker 3
23:36
So I think it's, I think for me, like competence is cumulative, right? Like, it's like, you get to do these things like going up like last week was my first first time with improv. Right? So it's probably one of the harder ones and Tampa potentially got more comedy. In my
Law Smith
23:49
experience. It's the hardest open mic in the country that I've ever done. I've probably done 300 different mics throughout the years. And it's because the stage is like, fucking Yeah, it's weird. It's an evildoer. Yeah. And then like the self selecting group that signs up half of them used to be like, pretty much like schizophrenics off the street that just needed a place to hang out for two hours.
Eric Readinger
24:17
You know? So you can't be here. No, I'm doing the open mic.
Law Smith
24:22
And then they're trying to waiting the genius idea of trying to get the people from the show before that to come in watch more comedy after they just want to know the entire she just thought
Eric Readinger
24:31
entire feature, like an hour and a half. Oh, let's go watch these hacks. Yeah, let's watch this. What's bad comedy now
Law Smith
24:39
is the casing fringe. But there used to be a guy who would get up and literally face the other way. It just talked to the wall, and he wasn't funny. And it was just like, Okay, I guess we're gonna watch this fucking either.
Eric Readinger
24:52
It's funny or it's not it. If you can't really put your finger on it. I don't know what to tell you. Like always sad to me. Just just Vote. But like for the joke, it's not funny. But I disagree. There is
Law Smith
25:04
value to doing it. I used to hate doing it. But their value was, it would force me to write something or work on something on the way even if you bomb it in there. And if I got something, if I got a laugh and that my it at a good, it was good. It was good to go.
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Speaker 3
25:22
It's cumulative. Like that's what I'm saying. But don't you think? Do you think being a comic makes you easy? Like more sociable in life? If you have a networking event? You don't think you're more confident to speak to people because of comedy? Oh, for
Eric Readinger
25:33
sure. Oh, yeah. But I feel like everybody should do somebody, even even it's just public speaking doesn't have to be comedy. I mean, I envision
Law Smith
25:39
myself owning a business that's doing very well. And you bring in interns and you go, you have to go do an improv class. Yeah. As part of your internship because the yes and rule that I did the Groundlings it's the best thing I ever had, because I used to hate any kind of small talk any kind of lean cocktail party, any of that. I just be like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. And then you figure out like people have character, like what they dress is a decision subconsciously or consciously how they talk to you what they're going to talk about. And then now I just get kind of bored. I'll just say random stuff.
Eric Readinger
26:17
Yeah. Oh, I just had to teach my daughter. Yes. And if I mean, you get around me and girls and stuff, and they say mean stuff. But yeah, sure. One up them.
Law Smith
26:26
Yeah. You don't want to negate and try to fire back just, if they're making fun of you. If you really want a defense mechanism. Roll with it.
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Speaker 3
26:35
Have you submitted that pilot yet? Have you been the entrepreneur comedian who's got to send all his kids to improv classes? Like, not? Yeah, we
Eric Readinger
26:42
got to raise money. There. Were carwash.
Law Smith
26:44
I gotta, I gotta work. Wait till my kids get older, and they're making bank? And then I'll live off them. I'll be a real cool pair. Surround yourself with people who challenge you. Yeah. So
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Speaker 3
26:57
I think that goes back into the uncomfortable thing. But I think what I'm what I'm realizing is that they they say you never want to be the smartest person in the room. Right? So that's for sure. And I think, yeah, absolutely. And again, we talked about how you you sort of mimic or take on the qualities that people that are around you. And I've seen that in yourself. And I think everybody wants to think that they're sort of above it, right? That they're the exception, but then I think you can catch yourself doing like taking on other people's habits and stuff. And you're like, I'm not an exception in the slightest, you know, so then you kind of it's like that, that first move in chess, right? You're like, if I'm, you know, whatever, if you're like, I don't know, if you're not trying to drink alcohol, and you're like, Well, I probably shouldn't hang out this people or go to this particular location. Because this leads me into this bar. I think it's the same thing in life, right? It's like, make that first move with the people that you're around. So you can be, I guess, yeah, you can be the best version of yourself or whatever.
Eric Readinger
27:46
I'm sorry. Men and women working together in the office. Always be weird. Is that? That's cool. I didn't just think that I was like I was
Law Smith
27:56
you didn't read it very well. Like, I thought you were saying something else. When
Eric Readinger
28:00
I talk about improv. I just kind of get the gist of the center.
Law Smith
28:04
Have you done your audition yet? Your acting audition? Nope. What did you decide your monologue?
28:09
No, it's not. You don't have to do notice. I
Law Smith
28:12
like me. You could
28:15
but it's not they have like said stuff.
Law Smith
28:18
I forgot really cool. Forgot to do mine.
28:21
So is that a call response right there? Am I supposed to respond to that?
Law Smith
28:23
No, I'm sorry. Men and women working together is always gonna be weird. I thought I thought it was interesting. I think it has merit. Yeah, I
28:33
have to get buried. Depending on how successful you become.
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Speaker 3
28:38
So I think I think with that one, I mean, it's, it's pretty simple. I feel like you know, what happened depends on what level you will look at it right? Because I work in a co working space which I don't even work with the women that are at the company. I have one woman that I'm working with right now, but I'm in a co working space and I still feel weird to say hi to the women that work there right because I feel like I'm bringing sex into the wow oh yeah.
Law Smith
29:01
Well, I mean, I flat i
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Speaker 2
29:05
Ladies, I bring the six sorry, I know it's not easy. Sorry. My Essence is going
29:11
around the implication I get
29:16
the application in that
Law Smith
29:17
in that specific kind of scenario that setting sure I get that because there are a lot of dudes that are in you know that entrepreneurial salesman any kind of competent guy we were talking about earlier. They're always selling they're always trying to be like yeah, you know, looting their people they want to they want to be the tech giant or whatever that kind of guy the little ego
29:40
the hard clothes. Oh, yes.
Law Smith
29:42
And I get that because you don't want to be a creator. You don't want to be a weird guy in there.
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Speaker 3
29:47
Well, don't you think? I mean, is it just me as are always like, every time I meet any woman that's relatively attractive in a workspace there's always a level of tension that I feel I don't know if that's like a I don't know if that's like
Law Smith
29:59
that Yeah, that's just that's
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Speaker 3
30:00
my that's my thing. I don't know, maybe I'm just overly conscious of trying not to, you know, try to protect the reputation or try to
Law Smith
30:08
just be you, man. Don't worry about it. Like, you don't need to overthink it. Just their, their their
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Speaker 3
30:14
work, but I feel like we say that right. And then like, it's like thing, but then you read about all kinds of stuff that goes on or like you hear side conversations about things going on at work, you know, like, oh, this was always going on the entire time. I was working here, but just we didn't see it.
Eric Readinger
30:27
Yeah, it doesn't surprise you anymore. Obviously, that was happening. I don't know. Yeah, I think it'd be okay. Yeah,
Law Smith
30:34
I think you could always bank on women, no matter how hot they got some insecurity about them. Sure. They could be a 10. And you could be like, your skin looks a little. It looks a little Bachi today. Yeah, yeah. So just know that you always have the upper hand. If that helps. What were you gonna say? Nothing but the same? Did No, no.
Eric Readinger
30:59
But it will be the one calling women crazy. Not me. I didn't say that. You said those words. Last. I didn't say that. Because of the implication.
Law Smith
31:09
You read into that. That's your you inferred. How about this. Let's go a little existential time has gone inside out time gets distorted with this intense gravity.
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Speaker 3
31:22
Yeah, that's a that's just another song reference. It's a song reference. So it kind of kind of like the life isn't a joke. It's all that funny. So it's just a song that I really liked the band's name. I don't know if you're familiar with the band spoon. Oh, yeah. Yes, that's one of their songs. So
Law Smith
31:37
it made me think of Interstellar. That's what? Mushrooms? Well, I like you posting it without any context around it. It's definitely spoon. Yeah. And that's what I would say if I wrote anything that was read on here that I didn't want
Eric Readinger
31:52
out loud. What is remote song? A song that hasn't been made yet by me. That's a
Law Smith
31:58
that's a Gordon Lightfoot song You ever heard? Okay, what about? Let's say you want to pick one?
Eric Readinger
32:06
I know. I can't really see him like good. Where are your
Law Smith
32:09
where your serial killer glasses?
32:12
bombers?
Law Smith
32:13
The Dahmer look is
Eric Readinger
32:14
fine. Is your mouth tired? Never.
Law Smith
32:17
It's never too late to reinvent yourself, which I agree with
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Speaker 3
32:21
you. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, I think I mean, I think that's kind of self evident. But, I mean, yeah, I mean, I think you can always I guess mix, start making different decisions with your life or and I don't really think you're limited by much else other than yourself. So yeah, pretty straightforward.
Law Smith
32:37
Yeah. I hate the I hate the phrase People don't change.
32:41
I get I get I said it earlier. Yeah. I
Law Smith
32:43
mean, I get it. It's just too, when a lot of people use it too much for a lot of situations. Right.
Eric Readinger
32:51
Another one of those comfort phrases, right? When somebody's complaining about somebody else. It is what why don't they? Why don't they understand why people don't think so. Yeah, I think that we could stop talking.
Law Smith
33:01
I think most people don't. I would agree. Like a lot of people don't. It's just it's such an absolute statement. Right. And just like you, you've been California sober for six months. Right? Right. Sure. It's a huge change. Yeah, you'd have kids, you'll probably have a kid one day, you know, that'll change you in overrun the sex. You might already have a kid. Yeah, you might. Yeah, you might be Herschel Walker of the codeshare. Nick
33:25
Cannon. Yeah, she's.
Law Smith
33:26
Yeah.
33:31
Okay, it's just stupid.
Law Smith
33:32
You're Antonio Cromartie of the business world, right.
33:35
All right.
Law Smith
33:37
We'll we'll close on one more on this. I didn't know if you had anything you wanted to come to the table with
33:43
placement from all these Facebook posts or just in general,
Law Smith
33:46
just in general, because every every one of them I've read over to you. I've looked at you and you're like, I had something else to talk about.
33:54
No, I'm done. I'm done with well, we can we can keep on going.
Law Smith
33:56
When are you going to get a podcast going? I thought I would take all these and then just make it a mini make it five mini series. Yeah. 510 minutes or whatever I just
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Speaker 2
34:09
or if on I'll dress up and read them for you. Yeah, we'll do it like Barstool Sports
Law Smith
34:13
where they read out
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Speaker 3
34:14
like Okay, I think the answer would be if I could find another person that I can do do a comp or podcasts or they wouldn't I don't even know what it'd be about.
Law Smith
34:22
If I'm playing armchair content strategist for you. You can just take these do shorts with them. Yeah. 30 seconds. Put it on YouTube. Put it on reels tick tock.
Eric Readinger
34:31
The fun slash annoying thing about podcasts are there aren't any rules on what a podcast is? Yeah. Do you want to record you know, the, the evidence list from you know, this murder trial that happened in 1970. You know, like, it's still a podcast. Don't do that.
Law Smith
34:47
Doing that will Sasso de Lea and I think Bryan Callen had a 10 minute podcast, right. You know, to be what a remake there I've seen some they're like efficiency podcasts and like five minute podcasts or whatever. Neil Patel has the one of the biggest business podcasts. It's only five minutes on every episode. It's
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Speaker 2
35:08
boring. And you don't have to go through all this. We have setup. Oh, yeah, just do audio in the
Law Smith
35:13
maker set your phone out on. anything on your mind while we close this mother down? It goes quick.
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Speaker 3
35:21
Yeah. Not not particularly business is going good. I think the only thing that is going on business wise is I think I've kind of figured out a better, better model for my industry, hopefully. And basically, that's the short story, the short of it is, is that again, kind of like the 8020 principle is just kind of working backwards from a lot of the partnerships and the traffic sources that we're working with to target clients. So rather than just saying, Hey, I have a business, let me broad target clients and or we do all this vertical is saying, hey, really, if we're just reaching into the traffic sources of our partners, then what do those traffic sources, how do they perform well, so that's really what I'm doing. And then so we're doing that and we're outsourcing. Some of our media buying. We're outsourcing some of our, you know, yeah, so you need a media buyer. So yeah, we're, yeah, we're just hopefully figuring out a little bit smarter way to do business is all
Law Smith
36:10
that's what he's just been doing. offline and online. I'll be as hype man.
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Speaker 2
36:18
Yeah, in bringing the fanny pack, bro. Yeah,
Law Smith
36:21
if you hope it gives you that fanny pack.
Law Smith
36:28
All right. Well, thanks for coming in. The rare guests. We haven't had a guest in a couple of few, so appreciate it. Do you guys have a strict time? Stop on it? Yeah, we can put about 33 ish. We're going a little long unless you got something else in your mind.
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Speaker 3
36:45
No saying I feel like that was like so it was it. We got touched on business and we touched on my Facebook post. But I was like We don't like we need more your face right.
Law Smith
36:55
I thought it was great. Your Facebook posts are the job of the lily pads. Yeah.
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Speaker 3
37:00
It's it was a soft philosophical touch tonight. Yeah, it was good.
Law Smith
37:04
I enjoyed it look much better than me just ranting about the Twitter files for 10 minutes and gone. What do you guys think? Right. We went because free speech guys. I don't know. Just that was all I was probably going to talk about.
Eric Readinger
37:17
I don't really have any idea. So I probably wouldn't listen. Oh,
Law Smith
37:19
how the media manipulated and and the government manipulated Twitter to lean very left, let's say in a short kind of way. Okay. We'll do that when you and I are no guest. Okay. All right. Bye.
