#283: How To Navigate The Dating World By Saying Stuff Like "COOL APPLE!" w/ Kim Lackey
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Law Smith
Law Smith
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sweat equity podcast and streaming show number one comedy business podcast in the world.
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Law Smith
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universe. All right, pragmatic entrepreneurial advice and take Jones 2020s best small medium enterprise best advice Business Advisory podcast in the usfa from Lux global Excellence Awards, proudly hosted by Lux Life magazine. Yeah, that's a real word. So true got lost. Smith says you're right. My right your left on the tube is Eric Readinger. Hashtag girthy ROI hashtags. It's not b2b hashtag sweat equity. Listen to us on Apple podcast, Spotify, YouTube, Facebook, Vimeo, your mom's Walkman whatever it is. This episode is sponsored by grasshopper try grasshopper.com forward slash what gets us $75 off an annual plan. What's grasshopper you say? It's a business phone line scalable business phone line. You got a side hustle? You got another job? You got a brand you're trying to build up where you need a business phone line. Don't have a Google Voice number. Don't let it just go to your personal number. Unless the answer the phone like no limit studios. It gets a laugh like maybe a quarter but am
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Law Smith
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Law Smith
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Wow. Kimbo Slice. Yeah. So you haven't been on the show? a while, like two three years. Two years.
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Speaker 2
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It's almost been two years to the date because I was on here on my 40th birthday. Literally, I came to your
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When is your birthday? Yeah, no, that
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Speaker 2
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is in the month of December. And I was at your studio and Ebor Yeah, the day I remember I went to on I was I was feeling very successful on my 40th I went to boxing. I had like a boxing demonstration with my instructor in Hyde Park in the morning. I showed up on your podcast in like exercise clothes with my tumeric juice. Eric was totally not a fan. Not. Not.
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I know I'm not and I know it's your birthday, too. I don't care.
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Speaker 2
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I mean, I came in with the freaking birthday crowned not in
Law Smith
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a tiara
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like, hey, it's definitely I did not do that.
Law Smith
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So awkward. You know, talking about it, I guess. Three of us in the room. I'm
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kind of awkward that I made that joke.
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Speaker 3
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I feel I did nothing about it. I didn't know any awkwardness except
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the tumor. Geez. I did bring that.
Law Smith
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Yeah. Yeah, no, I remember. Eric getting all audio nazione about cleaning didn't remember
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Speaker 3
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I just told you that. That's why you remember that? I was and I didn't remember it either. Kim told me that. And that's how it got back to you.
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Speaker 2
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That's what you want. Me? He's not gonna touch it. I'm sort of just looking at it. I'm scared. Yeah, but it's here.
Law Smith
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Don't sip on the mic. Yeah, I do. Remember we had some kind of food or something. And I was like, we can't eat on the mic because it's so gross. It grosses me out. I have the opposite of the what is it as Mr. or whatever? Yeah, whatever it's called when they get on the back of the night. This is how I eat.
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Speaker 2
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In all seriousness, that is one of the worst sounds like surgeons in general are not awesome to me like the clicking of pins and all that don't like it. Really hearing clicking of pins. Yeah. And hear like a repetitive annoying sound hearing someone chew. Oh, yeah. No, so you know what i can?
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Well, but somebody said the way he just did it. You know?
Law Smith
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Hmm.
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Speaker 2
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I probably do need some mic lessons from y'all because in a totally separate pile have problems. Oh, I just did it. Word myself.
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Yeah, but that was just a mouth. No, that wasn't eating.
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Speaker 2
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Okay, well in a in a separate post. Thank you. Except that I totally know you don't do that you
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just say to people of course he says that I say it.
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I don't say it, you're not gonna do it.
Law Smith
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Eric is the engine that drives this machine. So if he doesn't take it up out of gas, I take it out post. Okay. He does what you do you do a little bit of audio cleaning, right?
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Speaker 3
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A little Yeah. But I'm not chopping out content. You're not
Law Smith
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chopping out yums? Right. So is there a setting in that audacity for that hurt? Totally
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should be? Yeah,
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Speaker 2
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I'm in my, in my karaoke experience. And when I you know, in my years of attempting karaoke, I have received feedback on holding the mic closer, but that would really help my performance.
Law Smith
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Yeah, it. It's strange. I don't remember the first days of doing stand up, but you definitely don't know how close to put the mic to your mouth kind of thing.
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Speaker 2
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And if you're doing stand up, also like karaoke. Yeah, I would imagine that every mic is different. Oh, yeah. So you just don't know the audio setups different. So you just have to you have to get a feel for it.
Law Smith
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Yeah, you get a better ear at it. Even though I have terrible hearing, but sometimes, sometimes it just helps you go. Can y'all hear me?
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Speaker 2
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Straight? Okay, well, that that is def next time I'm on the break the fourth? Like, excuse me, audience, can you? Um, I
Law Smith
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don't say excuse me out of it. Oh, right. Yeah, you don't need to be polite. You just need to be directive and just go Can y'all hear me? Because I couldn't hear the last person. But you know, that was up there.
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The polite part? That's a good lead into the next topic. But
Law Smith
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well, so yeah, we we were all got topics ready to go. We were all kind of shooting the shit about dating? Well, we've this I'm gonna see if I can weave this into more of the entrepreneurial life with dating. So it kind of keeps with our, our core theme a little bit. But we were talking about, you had some bad date stories. And I love that date stories.
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You have some too?
Law Smith
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I've got a lot. Yeah.
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Speaker 2
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I mean, if you're dating, honestly, and it's not that's not I'm like, optimistic to a fault. And basically everything. So I'm not trying to be down on dating or negative about it. But honestly, if you're dating and you're like, actually, like, who doesn't have bad stories people are gonna have it is a topic of comedy because it is sterile? Yes. It's kind of
Law Smith
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the comedies about if you break down comedy, it's conflict or contrast. And it's always awkward. You know, it's a lot like I can pair a lot of when I had my agency, it was a lot of meetings, business meetings, because it'd be referral, which would be like someone setting you up on a date sometime, when you don't really know them. You don't know their business, so you're trying to get to know them. And it feels a lot like a first day. Like I asked. I tried to ask a lot of questions.
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Speaker 3
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The applications aren't as aren't the same.
Law Smith
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I'm trying to business bangham I'm trying to make a transaction in your business to make a deposit. Okay,
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Speaker 2
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let's just get like really romantic here and say that if the end goal is if the end goal is either a relationship or marriage, that's a freakin business marriage.
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Oh, yeah. That's like, Yeah.
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Like a romantic really. Let's bust out the flowers.
Law Smith
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I think it's in pragmatism. I think it's stoicism. I think it's that you you end up having to get there. I was one of those things. I brought it up on the podcast. That spontaneity is not romantic. We wanted I heard, I can't remember. Yeah, I
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agree. selfish.
Law Smith
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I think it seems romantic. But I heard a comedian on you made it weird. I can't remember her name. Emily. I think she was no planning is Yeah. It's not sexy to plan but it awfulness right, it shows right here and planning with whoever you're with is like the most romantic thing you can do. And I was like, Yeah, I do. I get that. I totally get that. spot. Navy sucks. Like, especially if
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Speaker 2
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you wouldn't, you wouldn't like the best delivery. And the most well thought out. Scenario does seem spontaneous, but like that's like, any of your stand up. shirt, you know, bits that you do. I mean, you don't go that's not spontaneous. It's you're delivering it as if Yeah, I mean, you had to you had to
Law Smith
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assess about it. Yeah, yeah. It's it's a lot. It's made to look like it's spontaneous, but it's not.
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Speaker 2
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So what what thoughtful plan Have you rolled out on a date that you obsessed about?
Law Smith
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No, I'm just saying I'm saying just if you're in the middle of a relationship, I think I think we get i don't know i i think It's a hard conversation to have. Where you have to kind of undo someone's thinking of like, I think it's really romantic to plan kind of thing. Because that doesn't get hot at all. That's like the that's not romantic. That's not but I mean, I just watched buckling Do you? I
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mean, do you think that they are are they hurt
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my soundboard with a guest now I forgot
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Yeah. Wow,
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Speaker 3
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we forgot to mention Kim's like our first did we say that on air
Law Smith
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first guests in a year
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in person longer than that
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Speaker 2
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really? Gonna get trouble? Are we gonna get in trouble by your listeners? I already had it where I need like herpes five. Oh, yeah, I don't
Law Smith
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know. Like you're saying like that.
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Yeah. So it is to herpes. Like,
Law Smith
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I just tell people like I had it. I felt like you know, cuz maybe I have a friend that I don't remember felt herpes.
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Like what I had to
Law Smith
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know. Like, you know, like, you remember the old 90s commercials where it's like, yo, we went on a date the other night? Well, I got something to tell you. And then it would be like, now she's got to tell all her friends and my
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friends. Right. And they tell your friends?
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Speaker 2
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Well, I do. I do. Remember. I remember the valtrex commercials with the big blue pill. So. So okay,
Law Smith
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big and Big Pharma by the way coming into solar. Oh
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bit. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Sorry.
Law Smith
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Everybody has big pharma until you get a vaccine.
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Speaker 2
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Yeah. Or I mean, I'm not a real big fan myself that that definitely. Yeah. I'm a big fan of Big Pharma myself, but I don't even know if that's still a drug out. I have no idea. However, in the 90s it was and on the topic of herpes, so you know, it's the same. It's the same thing here. So cold sores in your mouth. So like when I was a teenager, I used to get those horribly.
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I used to until I started doing Wim Hof. And it stopped Wim Hof breathing. I
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Speaker 2
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need to get home. Yeah. Well, my. My stepdad was an OB GYN, and so he would get these samples. And so my mom came to visit me at Auburn warrigal. And I had on the back of my door in my dorm room. He had given me this like huge bat, like lots of samples of valtrex in case I got a cold sore, and my mom like opens up my closet and she's like, Kimberly, oh my god, why don't you need IDs? And I'm like, I have no idea what she's talking about. And she's going. I mean, I think just I remember that, generally speaking, she thinks I'm the most naive person and
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Speaker 3
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that was kind of I remember thinking it was like, we didn't get the cool herpes from having sex. herpes you're born with? Yeah, it was like
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Speaker 2
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well, let me just say I had a cold sores in my mouth. I do not think that the other version is cool at all. That would sounds cooler would it's only because you attach sex to it right? I guess if you can attach sex to anything, that's pretty awesome.
Law Smith
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Sometimes Yeah, this I got this scar sex. Yeah, I totally agree. Oh, my God proves any story
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Speaker 2
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ours from sex would just be like, you almost have to write that on your forehead, like write like an arrow underneath it or something because
Law Smith
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you never tell them what it's from. Like, specifically, you just got to see this right here. It's not from when I was five and hit my head on a tile floor. It's a six
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Speaker 2
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for my sex cards. Because someone punched me in the face and was like, asked me to leave x. It was just it was it was I
Law Smith
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wrote an awesome I wrote, we talked off air the other day about doing the gratitude list. Kind of every morning thing. And I wrote the other day, I'm so glad I don't have any like, I'm so glad on meat and potatoes, boring vanilla. Sexually, because it's like you wrote that down. Yeah, I'm grateful for that. because it'd be weird if you had that. That kink. A lot of guys have, you know, some guys that have stuff where you're just like, wow, you spend a lot of your brain time. Right. Yeah, a lot of your time is thought about getting getting this going. You know,
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Speaker 2
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I get what you're saying. That is not that. But I don't agree. Not only do I not agree. I do not agree that being vanilla.
Law Smith
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I'm grateful for it. Okay, that's all I need.
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Right? That's
Law Smith
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I'm saying,
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I'm different shows random folks. But I don't
Law Smith
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think it's a bad thing. I'm saying I'm so glad I don't have that thing. That consumes a lot of brainpower.
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Speaker 2
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I think what you're saying is also an opinion and the story that you told me the other day, and Eric was there as well. A story about
Law Smith
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I don't know if I could tell whatever story not to say
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Speaker 2
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it then out. Okay. Well, the story about the unfortunate scenario, where
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Oh, hell
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yeah, you met on a comedy show. And then you Eric was.
Law Smith
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Was there okay. He knows he knows that's not vanilla. No, he knows. Oh, I
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Speaker 3
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was there. I remember. Now, yeah. Well, I mean, I also remember stand up for a
Law Smith
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little bit.
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A girl that you hooked up with has Oh, yeah.
Law Smith
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But she didn't tell me she was
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I don't that's that's vanilla.
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Speaker 3
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Well, okay. Let's I think a woman's not that crazy. The difference for you is you're saying like, you don't need it. You don't need that, but you're willing to maybe you're willing to open on the other end. gimps you're talking like
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dressing up and I try
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Speaker 3
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to help you out here. I don't even know WrestleMania I know what I'm saying. I'm saying I don't need no, I'm saying you like you're still willing. On the other if somebody else might need that. Yeah,
Law Smith
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maybe if I like them enough. If I like them enough, you might start I don't know, it feels embarrassing.
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fucking thing sucks.
Law Smith
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I don't think I Well, I would. I'm thinking as a guy, I'm so glad I don't have this thing. That is worth fetishizing something that I feel like the guys I know that have that spend a lot of their time thinking about Okay,
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Speaker 2
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well, I think also that both of you should use self disclosure before you're dating and make sure that these women know that you have a podcast, I tell comedians, I talk straight up basically anything. It's all like fodder for showing up on your show?
Law Smith
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Ah, yes, only not well, I don't really. It's that thing of like, if they say I don't care, that's fine. But it usually a lot of the stuff they think is gonna get in there doesn't
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Speaker 3
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get out. They know he had I'd give either we're just messing around just the two of us. We don't ever stay on track.
Law Smith
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Yeah, topics. Yeah. And it's one of those things we're, we're not getting into this is why this one's a little bit fun to do this episode, because we don't we try to make sure we're not doing too many non business D themed shows, you know, we're episodes.
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So you're saying I'm not in a bit?
Law Smith
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I know. I know. No. But you know, I'm saying like, it doesn't come up as often as it does in normal conversation, to talk to a lot of girls
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business sexism, sexism,
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Speaker 2
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and all sex. It's like the original entrepreneurial adventure this profession in the world. Yeah. I was trying to grab that I couldn't find it.
Law Smith
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But, you know, for for for this kind of thematic episode, I'd say. We were just talking about bad dates. I think it's always interesting. I was just trying to find through lines it is it does feel like doing a discovery meeting, if you're trying to be outside advisory someone or you're doing coaching with anybody, right, with a buddy bringing one of your clients, that first meeting is similar to a coffee date, I would say?
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Speaker 2
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Yeah, I mean, any kind of intake form, things like that, you know, making sure you're a good fit. I mean, I absolutely do that with my clients. And I mean, here, I also have another day job. And when I mean, we do that with real practitioners and things like that, yeah, I have to have to do a little preview and kind of I certainly, you know, dating you don't want it to sound like an interview, but it kind of it definitely can't,
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is
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Speaker 2
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it should it kind of should be but not on a you know, hopefully it can also be fun. I'm always I'm, I was this morning when I was getting dressed and coming and knowing that we were talking about this, I started laughing thinking, you know, I know that we're coming in here and talking about like, funny stories that we have, or or at least like brainstorming bad dates. And I thought to myself, I had this aha moment, like, am I? I mean, of course, I'm on someone else's list as a bad date. I mean, I've never thought about that for a second. But like how egotistical is on me? I'm like, Oh, I have to be I've been divorced for five years I've been on like, I have no idea how many dates. Of course, I've shown up on that video.
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Speaker 3
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countless, countless. Well, I hate the stories I heard. I'm sure the guys were like the stories you told us remember, and they drove really far. And you know, that guy was definitely.
Law Smith
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What's the worst one been since you've been divorced?
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Speaker 2
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I mean, I feel like there's like brackets of worse like, Oh, it's like the one that I told you all when I'm, I'm like, in this guy's car. He's driving through the Marin Headlands telling me I'm like, you gotta
Law Smith
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tell the story.
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Okay, okay. Well, basically,
Law Smith
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this also has like, kind of a businessy thing. A lot of you know, a lot of people get matched up in either from people at work, or, you know, around the industry you're in just because you spend most of your time at work. Typically. Yeah, right. So good safety remind you were kind of set up in that kind of way. Right?
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Speaker 2
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I was and I had, I was pretty newly divorced at the time. And I really, I mean, I'm so much more order today on the dating front, but I literally I had no idea what I was doing. And I did not think for a second I there wasn't an ounce of me that was worried or thought that there's like, could be something dangerous about people or especially someone that set me up. So I was living in California and I was working in the Bay Area in Northern California. And I worked at in as an advocate in a nonprofit. So we were constantly out with other big businesses. It was the top of the market that San Francisco area was their number one market. So we're like, working with Salesforce and stuff like that constantly meeting tons of people. And I was the New Girl On The Block. And then I went on tons of dates or set me up with people all the time. Then I worked at office of base. I mean, I would say I want to say 100% women and pre arranged for young. So this one date I went on somebody I was living in the North Bay of the area, someone driving over from the East Bay, which was good, like hour and a half. And I guess like 100% this guy did not know but 100% his thing is like, I have driven 100 an hour and a half hour and a half drive equals sex. Like that's definitely what he saw. Me I am. Yeah, I'd say a lot of 100% clueless on that I don't even in and someone at work was like, oh, you'd love to Sky. I really love to set you up. I didn't ask a thing. We're talking about these questions and previews right now. You should ask. Well, guess what? I asked. None of them. I'm like, Okay, sure. Sounds great. Yeah. qualifiers
Law Smith
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for lead. Yeah,
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Speaker 2
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no qualifiers. Well, a number one turns out she's not know my type because I walk in. Is this like Peruvian restaurant? The guy is. What can I say? What I said he looked like he was from the Taliban. Yeah. Well, that's what it looked like. He was from the Taliban's. He
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looked like that he did. If that's your that's fun. Yeah, that's your truth. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 2
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I can't imagine that anybody is a fan of the Taliban. What could you be
Law Smith
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in my head, I like to think is God our kazakstan
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listeners, and we actually,
Law Smith
22:05
were actually crushing.
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Speaker 2
22:06
But then, but then also, I mean, so then stereotypically mean to him. It's like, no, speak, no talking. I talk for a living. No speaking, they're talking, I will order for you. I will do that goes on the that's on the other end of the spectrum. And it's great for men to be able to make a decision, but he's like, no talking. So we're leaving. And he wanted me to go home with him to his house. And I'm like, I'm not doing that. So in his idea was, well, let's just take a drive. And again, let me take today, I would have ended that date. But I had this polite streak grown up in the south, I thought, well, let me at least be polite. So I go and we start driving.
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Let him murder me.
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Speaker 2
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I'll read headlines and I have I grew up reading as a kid, my firt the first books I ever read. Were always like FBI profiling stuff I skipped right over the baby sitters club. Yeah, he drew Mike. No, no, Nancy Drew, like my mom's asked me before, where did you get those books? I'm like, Mother, you bought them? For me. There was no Amazon was ordered. Like, you took them to the
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store. And we got them and find them in the woods
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Speaker 2
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anyway. And so the marine handlings in general, have tons of stories about these, like, serial killers and stuff. So we're driving along, it gets pitch black and I asked him, we Where are we going? He's like, Oh, it's a surprise. And I started getting I think he knew that I was getting nervous. And I'm like, yeah, we're turning around. No, thank you. Absolutely not. And he goes, wait, wait, we'll wait. It's fine. I'm safe. I'm safe. Here. Let me give you my business card. Right, I am. I told him what does that have to do with anything?
Law Smith
23:44
Are you giving me a vistaprint your business card? So anybody can go on moo.com and get their business card after I mean? Oh, wait, everybody can everyone can
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Speaker 2
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Yeah, well, anyway, I after that, my friend in California, had a had a major like come to Jesus moment with me and said anywhere you ever are again, never again like you text me when you're leaving where you're going? What you're like I want she told me I want a picture of that guy's license and yours. I never did. I never went that far. But yeah, if if we called the squirrel or she was on the phone like her stories, when she comes into town, she lives in California still but is from Tampa. whenever she's here. We cannot help or go you know, wherever at getting a drink or something. And she just turns on like her dating stories of me in California. It's like a chapter
Law Smith
24:38
because there's a lot of them to bring it into the business atmosphere. I think going into things What are your qualifiers make sure that people that you know that might be selling for you. What are you looking for in a person all you
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Speaker 2
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always ask me that. And guess what you always ask me that. And then I'll get on the phone with somebody you know, here.
Law Smith
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Stronger funding to dilf. That's all
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Speaker 2
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When I get into work, and you ask me that it is I can't my face hurts laughing so hard about that.
Law Smith
25:06
But oh, you know, it's one of those things where I think, when you're, when you're doing business development on your own, if you're in a client, client business, but you need to put it out there, too, if you if you want people to kind of find, find people for you kind of thing. I know, I'm not saying you, you have to do that. And like, dating, but don't you, you're not actively, like really needing to find, you know, a lot of hot deals out there, right now. Like, if you were if you're like, I'm gonna, I really want to find someone
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Speaker 2
25:39
that I just think okay, so it's I like that you pose that question to me that way. Because if I'm talking to someone on the phone, and you know, like, Who's your ideal client? And they they will get frustrated? Oh, don't? How should I know that? I don't know. And they get all frustrated. And I know when we originally started work, and you did all my branding for my company. Yeah, that also, I have trouble with that. On the flip side, if someone is regurgitating that to me, I'm like, No, you need to know that that's important for your business. And when you ask me this about guys, I do I have theirs. I can easily, you know, say certain things that are that would be important to me. But I feel like I don't want to back myself into a corner and go oh, like I have this like hard checklist.
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No, but how about deal breakers? Do you deal breaker? Yeah,
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yeah, deal breakers are,
Law Smith
26:27
there's something you're absolutely right. But there's a lot of things that are kind of gray area on a scale.
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Speaker 2
26:31
So here's the deal breaker. I like addictions. Okay, that's, uh, and I mean, I think that you know, some people you know, drinking or whatever is obviously fine. If someone says I don't drink, what is what does that mean to you? If someone says I know breaker, it means I have a problem. I think it means also I have a problem with drinking and I was Mormon, but I liked smoking. No, Derek and I like to party.
Law Smith
26:53
Hey, smoking is a deal breaker.
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Speaker 2
26:55
Yeah. And and, I mean, on the Amana cigarettes inside of stationwagon bag. I don't think like weed is not a problem. But like, chain smoking. It's just That's gross. Yeah. I mean, I'm over here.
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Speaker 3
27:09
Nothing groceries. No groceries smell.
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Speaker 2
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I have if I have a prejudice against something, it's it's overweight people. Okay,
Law Smith
27:19
that's fair.
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Speaker 2
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And I don't need someone to be like they're ripped or something. But I just care. I when I say I care about it, not I I exercise? Are you someone that just trying to be someone healthy?
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Speaker 3
27:31
physical attraction is I don't care what anybody says it's the number. It's the first reason you're going to talk to somebody. You can't read their minds and know me if it's a stranger, you know, I'm saying. So like, it's not crazy to say it's like we were talking about on like, the dating apps, how it's like, what's with the tricking? Like of people where it's like, the camera angles are all crazy. And it's like, you don't see it. And it's like, what is your goal?
Law Smith
27:57
Yeah, what's the endgame here and get them like, gotcha, right?
28:00
Like, what
28:02
would you like if you got the well,
Law Smith
28:04
I asked law has got fat fish? Not cat fish. Just for the engineers out there. What
28:11
What, what would I've never walked
Law Smith
28:14
out with like 70 pounds bigger than what was advertised?
2
Speaker 2
28:18
One of the I sort of started telling you guys this the other day with this friend of mine that lives in Tallahassee, we went out and she's, she's telling me like, you've got to meet these girls I work with. They also have trouble with dating. This was like a year ago. I'm like, appreciate it. Like I don't know that. I also had trouble with that. Like, does having trouble dating me? Like I'm not in a serious relationship? I
Law Smith
28:42
think because I didn't project that right. Yeah. Right.
2
Speaker 2
28:45
Because I really, I mean, you guys don't ever hear me going around like all dating. Right? So anywhere independent,
Law Smith
28:52
I would say one of your qualifiers was a guy that can handle that. Yeah. I mean, codependent II, all that you know, that kind of stuff. I would say it's probably unattractive.
2
Speaker 2
29:03
Yeah. Well, and on the flip side, so the empath coaching. I mean, I'm extremely empathic. And in a, in the negative sense of that I do. I attract codependent people, because I yeah, I can attract that. I'm very good at knowing it now.
Law Smith
29:20
In it, you're finding people that don't get that. And then when you sit down with them, they're like, Whoa, it's a lot of me.
2
Speaker 2
29:26
Yeah. Or also, like, I can go out on a date with someone and I just, I like people, I'm happy to listen, have you listen to someone's story? I'm not gonna be rude about it. I mean, if I'm listening, that doesn't mean like, oh, and yes, I would like to have sex with you now. And, and because I'm empathic. This is like one of this is the a superpower in dating is, I will sit there and someone will tell me, they're like, all of their shit. They tell me and I'm sitting there thinking, well, that's really interesting and appreciate you letting me know I will never go out with you again. And but guess what I didn't have to go through,
30:04
you'd have to dig deep.
2
Speaker 2
30:06
I didn't I didn't have to go through six dates to figure that out. And then I think that they leave. And they're like, yes. Yeah, that was great. And I really enjoyed my job as I listen to my stories.
Law Smith
30:19
Yeah, I heard the four guys kind of the less history more mysteries is a little bit better played as a strategy, likely for both people. Yeah,
2
Speaker 2
30:32
I don't want to show up as a girl and be like, so here's the deal. My ex husband was, and I have this, this and this and Excuse me, but what kind of car do you drive? And do you have to? You don't need to? I don't think anybody needs to be.
Law Smith
30:44
Yeah, no, I found myself doing it. And it was almost a self sabotaging way. But not realizing it. But is it?
3
Speaker 3
30:53
I just the emotion attached to it? What if you're talking about just some great memories? No, you know, like, tell him it
Law Smith
31:00
would be like, why? How are you single kind of thing? or Why are you single? What are you looking for kind of thing. And like, here's everything. Here's what happened and go way into too much details? Because I like, I like detail. small details and stories and stuff like that. And
3
Speaker 3
31:15
oh, yeah, I mean, I think they all do. The three of us will drill down on figuring out the real answers. Yeah,
2
Speaker 2
31:22
I was out on a date on Friday, actually. And this guy, he asked me, I mean, I've known him for a while and he asked me, How was your Thanksgiving? What do you How was your Thanksgiving and we both like I was in DeLand, Florida. His family lives more in Central Florida too. So we were kind of making jokes about like, Central Florida. And he asked me one question in between, like, my apartment going on the elevator getting in the Uber before we get to where we are, I'm still talking about my family. Because I mean, he asked, I have like, and he says to the Uber, he's like, okay, please don't give us a bad rating about that. And we get out of the car. And he made kind of a joke about, okay, we're like, we're done with that. Because I was probably being my family is a little bit messed up. And I was probably venting is the first person that asked me and I realized, stop talking. Yeah, I realized that, um, I didn't think I was being you know, and I just looked at him, I'm like, okay, no to thanks. You ask, but I do I kind of appreciate that. Because I know that I will be I can be long winded.
Law Smith
32:26
Yeah, same, same.
2
Speaker 2
32:28
It wasn't a first date, though. So I mean, at least it wasn't like, I just like dumped that. But I also I mean, there's a line there. Because if you're gonna be that is how you emotionally connect with people not being negative and going all into constantly your stuff. But I mean, if you are gonna have a partner, hello, like, you know, you do need someone to have a deeper conversation than like, Oh, cool.
Law Smith
32:54
The best the
32:56
apple dude.
Law Smith
32:59
The back of her computer.
33:02
That's what it was.
33:08
I'm trying to find where that came from. But
Law Smith
33:10
yeah. You might need to take this Wow,
33:15
that's like my favorite movie.
Law Smith
33:17
That that line. So I mean, that line for me, and I'm gonna ruin it for you. Because no one would ever say that. Like, no one would go How about them apples and put it on the
2
Speaker 2
33:25
wall? Matt Damon would? He did? As a matter of fact,
33:30
it's in the movie, but it does. It's like doesn't really make any sense. It really doesn't have a context
33:35
on a thing. And the
Law Smith
33:36
other context within the linear story doesn't really make sense.
3
Speaker 3
33:39
Right? Were they talking about apples? at all? Yeah, so it
2
Speaker 2
33:42
was equally as random as what I just said. Yes. Yeah.
Law Smith
33:48
Yeah, I thought that I thought that line was boss when I saw it. And then I was like, This is terrible. Like that's
2
Speaker 2
33:53
the best one you like revisit. It was like me revisiting the movie dirty dancing. And I'm like, I was obsessed with that in like, first grade and then I revisited it and I remember how did my mother love it? Oh, my God. That's what was going on.
Law Smith
34:07
I'm a cute Havana nights for Dirty Dancing favorite. No one. I love the sequel.
34:13
Okay.
Law Smith
34:15
What about karate kid? Or someone? Oh, it did on me. Totally. It was like, No, the rousse and they they made it into Cobra Kai now, which is amazing. Yes, it was an asshole in karate kid. And I was like, that's why I didn't like that movie. And not and never liked it. Like kids are like rolling a joint or something at a party and he sprays water on them. And you're like, yeah, that guy's a dick. Yeah. Oh,
3
Speaker 3
34:37
they nailed Cobra Kai, when you when the other dude retells it, you're like, Oh, yeah, that scene at the beach. He's like, yeah, goes over my girlfriend and he starts fighting it's like oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. New guy in town.
Law Smith
34:52
So what what other since since divorced town What? What Do you have a strategy for finding what's called the off that d? How about that?
35:04
Yeah, it's called last myth.
Law Smith
35:06
Yeah. All right. I'll matchmake. Um, anybody any listeners of the show? Want to date Kim? All broke it? Yeah. Oh, yeah,
35:19
you could do the qualifying first you probably
Law Smith
35:20
try to use a business broker,
2
Speaker 2
35:24
I think that you'd be really good at actually like, Excuse me, could you please speak to my agent?
35:28
Yeah,
35:29
I'll film you the onboarding of your boyfriend.
Law Smith
35:32
I don't know, what do you want? But I'll do it like, Yeah, but I'll do it like, a brother or self? That'd be like, What's your deal? Oh, would you have to give it up? Yeah. Do you have any arrests? What are what are those about? You know, like,
35:43
Oh, my gosh,
Law Smith
35:44
let's ask all the real talk question
2
Speaker 2
35:46
was an arrest. I mean, okay, so say somebody has been arrested. I mean, if it's like a DUI or something, and it was a long time, I mean, it kind of now, if someone's had like five DUIs? Um, that's not a, that's a no.
Law Smith
35:58
So it sounds you're forgiving, are very
2
Speaker 2
36:02
passionate and understanding. But where I, so I'm like, I front load with being okay, you know, understanding, compassionate. But then if someone crosses a lot like I'm, I don't do the Forgiving after someone cross the line. One time, I believe in the saying, believe someone when they tell you who they are the first time. If you do one decision, and you show a character in a certain area, and I'm not in you know what I actually a friend of mine that she's married now, but she had been divorced for about five years as well. And when I got moved back to Tampa and started dating, she was telling me, she said the way to not get frustrated with dating is, you know, don't drag stuff out. Like if someone shows you that. Yeah, just be like, Okay, thanks for playing my witch in that is what I do. And that does work well for me. And that also, I mean, it's not like I was like, Oh, she told me that and I'm robotically implementing it. It made sense to me. You know, you
Law Smith
37:03
don't have to make a shark tank dismount. Exactly. bution networks not working out for me. For that reason. I'm out. You don't have to say shit like that. But you can't you can't cut it off before it leads on too much. Because guys are like, puppy sometimes about it. Oh, hystrix thinks
3
Speaker 3
37:24
this guys don't know if it's like, oh, you're playing hard to get right. Right? Because some girls do that. Or it's like, I want you to
2
Speaker 2
37:29
put in the effort. Why don't you put it ladies? I think like playing hard to get also I mean, okay, so there's a
3
Speaker 3
37:35
OC. Now we're gonna hear the double talk. No, there's a line just as confused.
2
Speaker 2
37:38
There's a line on, on not being not being like, available all the time. But if you're trying to do that, not being like, for instance, right now. I mean, I work a lot. Yeah. If so. I don't know. There. There could be guys that think that I'm playing hard to get like, I'm I am not this whole week. Like if someone asked me out this week, I mean, I do not have a night that's free. It's not because I'm like dating 10 people. It's because it's because of work. We have someone that we you know, so anyway, I that's not playing hard to get that's like I have a life. Let's schedule something I totally appreciate planning. But if I'm just like, okay, so he's asking me out and I should wait for days. And that's I feel Yeah, that's annoying. It's just a silly
38:29
game.
Law Smith
38:30
Yeah,
2
Speaker 2
38:31
we're all adults. Right? Like, like, we shouldn't just just clock ticking. Right.
38:36
Yeah, time. Yeah.
2
Speaker 2
38:38
I don't like people that waste my time though. Someone's wastes my time and does that to me? One? I mean, one person? I do not I I am single. I don't have children. So in that sense, like, basically most people do have kids, and which I love children. I mean, as a side note, I do not have kids because I like didn't want them.
Law Smith
38:59
Yeah, last time we did the podcast, my daughter who had a fever of 99. It was in the other room as a baby. And you're like, let me see. Yeah,
2
Speaker 2
39:11
I mean, I love children. I used to be a school teacher. I just I didn't have kids. So that said, I mean, me dating a guy who has kids is not a problem for me at all. However, because I don't have kids, I don't have like as many scheduling conflicts. And I can get really sensitive about if somebody is repeatedly like kind of puts me second, like, well, I've got in, in in and I know you have to understand, you know, so sometimes I will talk to my girlfriends and go, you know, is this guy kind of full of shit here? Yeah, I mean, he's telling me this, this and this, like, he has this with his kids like, constantly. So but I mean, when you have little kids in there, and they're younger, you mean it is a lot and you have kids?
Law Smith
39:58
Yeah. It's an indirect Relationship we've talked about Jordan Harbinger brought it up on his show, you have the five people you hang out with the most influence your life, but the five people they hang out with also indirectly influenced your life. So yeah, if if you're trying to date a guy that has kids in his ex, his baby mama or whatever, is, is creating problems for him that he hasn't figured out how to kind of stifle it's gonna, it's gonna get to you.
2
Speaker 2
40:25
And that happens in somebody that's either getting divorced or newly divorced. They haven't they haven't. Not always. But I mean, that's not always thing. But I mean, it just takes a little bit too, because I mean that relationship. I mean, obviously a divorce is a breakup. And I can't imagine if I would have had kids with my ex husband and how that would manifest because I still have, I would still have to mean obviously we got divorced because communication breakdown in these things. And so if I had to still communicate with him with my children, that will be stressful. Yes. Let's be strange. Like, I'm stressed out thinking about that
Law Smith
41:02
best thing I can tell anybody out there is just don't do it through the children. Oh, definitely not. You know, a lot of people do that. I remember, I remember feeling that with like, friends, parents, where they're like, trying to tell them something to tell the other parent. And you I'd be like the friend of the kid that was getting the message. It's like, like, if I had to type out kind of thing. What, but with that, I mean, it's that thing of like, work life balance. You know, I agree with that.
2
Speaker 2
41:35
I am crazy x. I mean, that's a that's a disqualifier. If someone, if someone sits down and tells me number one, they started regurgitating to me how much their x is a huge problem in this like, like, that's they're probably haven't processed or gotten over their divorce. I mean, it does take two. And they might be crazy. But you probably shouldn't tell that to someone you're dating. I mean, so that's one thing, and then just just their overall relationship with them. I mean, if their ex is still, I mean, I dated one guy that just was constantly in court with his ex, every, I mean,
Law Smith
42:15
same could go for hiring someone, right? You could hire someone that has this hang up with whoever they had last, that they keep bringing it up and all this stuff,
2
Speaker 2
42:23
right? I mean, it's that's just a direct relation to have you taken responsibility for whatever your part is in it. Which can be really hard when you when you have something that I mean, I'm trying to not talk about my ex here, but I mean, on paper, there could be really easy for me to go, how, how could I have done? You know, for instance, like, I mean, I had, you know, some some parts of me being married, I was pretty sick. I could easily say like, well, how could he have behaved XYZ, but at the end of the day, I mean, you do have to take responsibility for your part, and then just let it go move on, because it doesn't do you any good. I mean, if they're out of your life, or if you're done with a job or if you're done, you're done like
43:10
you're the one carrying that around, right and they're not feeling that
2
Speaker 2
43:13
and it continues just like you just said about the other five people you surround yourself influence Yeah, it just continues to show up in your, in your in relationships in your life. So yes, it's not worth it. So I mean, I looked for that how well is somebody processed that type of thing?
Law Smith
43:34
Right? That's good. Well, any any other bad dates? You want to get in there? I mean, every everyone's got a bad I mean,
2
Speaker 2
43:43
I'm jaded a guy that story. I have dated a guy that that like was he wore heels he had like heels on the shoes were so short, he had heels and I don't buy something or not you know what I love like in terms of law of attraction or or making up your mind. I know I'm sitting here being I don't mean to be wishy washy about it. I'm just saying about not pigeonholing myself into like, specifics. One time I did go on a date, and it was a I mean, I thought that whatever you just said fat fish. Yeah, yeah, that happened. And I was so so pissed about it because it wasn't like the first time and I was so pissed. And I didn't leave. I've never done that. But I just to my I got in the car, and I'm like, I will never I'm never not leaving again. And that has never happened to me again. So I just think like we knew it is a is a good reminder to myself, as I'm even saying it. To be clear. I mean, that's never happened to me again.
Law Smith
44:43
And for that I almost forgot the one thing I told a former guest, Bryant Donovan, as he's newly divorced needs getting on the dating apps are the only thing I really have advice because he's like, how do I get in the dating app stuff and all that, like I don't really have I'm not really great at it. But I was like, here's one thing that I found that works on hinge, because you can comment on people's pictures or questions they answer and go, if you just try to be a little bit funny, like, if you're on a one to 10 scale, if you can get like a three or higher, like, you'll crush it on there a lot better. Like I did a dorky AV test where sometimes for a while, just like a picture, or like one of the answers. And it was okay response. And then once I started, like putting a little bit more time into writing something that took, I don't know, 10 seconds, and was like a throwaway dad joke. Like, got better results that way. I didn't work for him.
2
Speaker 2
45:45
It's so hard to check. Ideally, I just do better with people in person. It's hard to, like, were you putting your time and effort into the online dating thing? I think that's hard.
3
Speaker 3
45:55
I'm not willing to take the risk of just showing up and then having to be like, Oh, we got to do this whole dinner.
Law Smith
46:03
Oh, the other tip is also.
2
Speaker 2
46:05
That's what I'm saying. Like, not staying for that again. We have to do this whole dinner. That's hysterical. But it's true. You're like, Oh, it's just better if you there's some sort of in person. They were
46:15
ready to order. Another one. And bring, forget whatever that is just eating right option.
Law Smith
46:21
Yeah, the primary thing I heard was Neal Brennan on a podcast talked about he facetimes everyone before they would meet in person because it eliminated a lot of like, Oh, I'm not getting cat fish or fat fish. And,
2
Speaker 2
46:34
like awkward laughs What if they What if they snort when they laugh but if they haven't?
46:40
Like Gee, yeah, yeah, there's a lot out there. You gotta
2
Speaker 2
46:43
figure out what if you're if it's like crickets, you're like so you okay?
3
Speaker 3
46:47
Oh, you don't think I'm funny? Deal Breaker I will get up and leave. Yeah, in the face. I'm so I'm bringing zingers and you're not
2
Speaker 2
46:54
carry a conversation on with the other person on the other side, then that's a no yes.
Law Smith
46:58
Yeah. And the, you know, the maybe have like crushing crippling anxiety that you can't really get through texting with them because you have time to prepare an answer. Right. So if you're talking with him a little
47:10
Do you know it took him an hour to write this?
Law Smith
47:12
Yeah, takes me a long time. And you're like, oh, weird. Okay, this is probably not gonna work. You know?
2
Speaker 2
47:18
Yeah, it will. And I think in with COVID right now, that whole that that you can slide that in? probably easier.
Law Smith
47:27
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a better way to kind of weave that in. Hey, I'm trying to be safe. Even though I already had it like herpes, right? And then,
47:38
yeah, it's your way of telling everybody you have herpes to
Law Smith
47:40
know me like making a herpes joke because it's got it's gonna have a limited lifespan.
2
Speaker 2
47:43
So that was a deal breaker, STDs. Sure, yeah. That on my list, none of the ones that
Law Smith
47:48
you can get rid of, because herpes. Definitely.
47:50
You can't get rid of herpes.
Law Smith
47:52
I know. I'm saying herpes would be a deal breaker for sure. But there's other ones that you can get rid of.
2
Speaker 2
47:57
Well, and then that way, I would imagine someone would just not tell me about it.
Law Smith
48:01
There's guys that just don't go to the doctor just because they don't want the diagnosis.
48:05
Oh, great.
Law Smith
48:06
That's great. That's a lot of guys. But
2
Speaker 2
48:08
okay, we'll see. Does this go into my naive column? Well, thankfully, I'm not like out just sleeping with a lot of guys. Right. Can I I want to finish this story that
Law Smith
48:16
were much many guys.
48:20
Not like a ton. Yeah, a lot. Just
Law Smith
48:23
some a good amount. Yeah, yeah. a smattering. All right,
48:27
which is we know what those numbers are.
Law Smith
48:29
Yeah. Yeah. We don't know the demographic breakdown until we get the research back.
48:34
Yeah, I have. I
2
Speaker 2
48:35
have. There's a I'm not attracted to certain, like ethnicities, okay, and I don't want to say that because I don't think it's rude. But I just I do like in terms of like, physical attraction.
Law Smith
48:51
I talk to a lot of people I tell a lot of white chicks. I don't really date white chicks. So it's not because I'm going after it. I just find myself. Not that girls aren't
49:02
we were She's so cute.
Law Smith
49:05
Yeah, we don't have to figure it out. Anyway, we'll cut that out.
2
Speaker 2
49:10
Okay. Well, so when I was okay, can I say this real quick? Yeah. Tallahassee my friends like hey, let's go out for drinks
Law Smith
49:17
STD capital in Florida. Oh, God.
49:19
Well, she's
2
Speaker 2
49:20
drinks these girls I work with I'm going back to that story we were talking about earlier. Yeah, let's go you know, these girls. They have trouble dating. You have trouble dating. Okay, back there.
Law Smith
49:28
Yeah, that's, that's hoisted upon you.
2
Speaker 2
49:31
So I'm like, Okay. And before I even do it, she's like texting me going. Oh, I wouldn't say that. She's in the best marriage either. She's kind of so so maybe she's like totally projecting all this stuff onto me. But she's before she's texting me during the day. Oh, can't wait for you to meet these girls. They also see like ratcheting up the level of dis tastes towards like men in general. I show up. I show up at this place. Guys. I am not exaggerating. That one girl that it. There's two of them. One of the girls has a lazy eye. She's like, you know, in her late 30s she's a lazy I can't, I can't. I can't focus like we're talking and she's like men or I can't ever find a good guy. She's
Law Smith
50:17
okay. Do you get caught in that awkward thing where you go? What do I do? Which I do I, the other one always do that other girl was wrong every time.
2
Speaker 2
50:26
The other girl was at least 300 pounds. Like, I'm not kidding. And she's telling me, why can't ever find a good guy. And I mean, I know I'm a big girl. And I flat out asked her. Because look, we're here. And she's like, all cards are on the table, right? Yeah, I've been thrown into this happy hour where people are mad at men one has like a horrible husband. One is 300 pounds. The other one has a lazy eye, no little lazy. So it's not a little it was bad. They're in their sister's. And she's like, they live together in their late 30s sisters and all not probably not the best on the dating front. So I'm like, ask the girl that's big. I said. So all right. You're saying I'm a big girl? Do you have photos of yourself on? You know, she's talking about online dating? Like, do you have full shot photos? And she says I put in my profile that I'm a bigger girl. You can just look even if you just looked at her face, like, Tommy. But she said I put it in my butthole. But she said i'm not i'm she said I don't feel like my body should matter. And I'm like, well, that might be part a yukata. Gotta do that. She told me she's like a lot of guys just leave. She said some people she's like, if a guy tells me if you don't send me a full picture of your whole body. I'm not going on with you. And I'm so I'm sitting over here going? Well, you know, I think that's valid. Yeah, it's not just about that. But it's about not wasting your time. It's not just,
Law Smith
51:55
like, misleading.
51:56
It's not fair that we have to be like, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's like, no, it definitely does.
2
Speaker 2
52:02
Well, it kind of matters to just you're just that is that's like an overall, that does not just equal your body. That's like, how honest are you? That? Yeah, I mean, it is it's rough. Like, let's just be honest. Because if you're sitting in a bar, or like, you know, everyone's like, Oh, I don't want to go to a bar. I get it. Like, you don't want to have to meet someone in a bar. So all right, but if you are, I mean, what makes you look twice at someone is obvious, right? Naturally at first. It's like, are they attractive? Like what? Yeah,
3
Speaker 3
52:31
what if you just see like a floating head under the table? Yeah, I will not. There's a 400 pounds like, Oh my God, is that happening in real life? Like what are you doing over there?
52:44
Eric, please stay right.
52:46
Yeah. Oh.
52:52
It's all you can you. Oh,
52:55
yeah. Make that living face.
Law Smith
53:00
You get hunted down. You got hunted Saturday night? Yeah, you did?
53:05
Yeah. Well,
53:07
I didn't I wouldn't.
Law Smith
53:08
I had to get it confirmed. Eric's someone else's types type.
53:13
Yeah, well hold the black ladies like me a lot.
53:16
They like me too, apparently.
53:18
Yeah. Same lady.
3
Speaker 3
53:21
Yeah. But I was telling law. I think that's why I did down there. Like, it was like, a road trip. Like, I felt like a child. I was like, were you like hiding? Like she like I was Yeah, no,
2
Speaker 2
53:36
Eric pulled the move. That was so awesome. I get to go down in in. It should go down in history. Well, I remember it. And you know what, let me just also say I couldn't be remembering incorrect. No, I? Well, because that same lady was wanting to dance with me. And I'm like, it was it. It got awkward. Wow, it got awkward. And then Eric came in and save the day with the most Mickey Mouse animated. He's like, because he's trying to offset the scenario. He's trying to not be threatening but also distracting in it. He nailed it. He nailed that.
Law Smith
54:14
What do you do, Jerome?
3
Speaker 3
54:15
I don't remember. He did a little I was dancing. Yeah, probably.
2
Speaker 2
54:19
I don't know. But but it was very in the in the style of Mickey Mouse dance was in the style of the animated character. Yeah, it was mean. It made me think you could nail it with
54:34
a tap shoes. Mickey Mouse. We're doing the tap dancing for sure she wanted you to come inside. Come inside.
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Oh, wow.
Law Smith
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It's Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. Oh, yeah.
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Inside is fun. And yeah.
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Speaker 2
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They weren't doing drugs when they wrote that or thinking about anything else in the show.
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No. Drugs.
Law Smith
54:56
Yeah, all drugs trip. Goofy's on Do false, that's for sure. All right, we could do gal gal pal talk for hours, but we got to cut it off. I don't think we asked you this the last two times you're on if we did, your answer may change. What advice would you give your 13 year old self?
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Speaker 2
55:16
Just don't worry about the small stuff.
Law Smith
55:19
Boom. That's easy peasy. Thanks for coming on empath. crowdrise.com.
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Thank you.
